Fwd: If no datatype is specified for @datatime

Sorry - forgot to copy the list.  The document should use the <aref> markup
convention, and <aref> should translate to starting with an '@' just as in
RDFa Core.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shane McCarron <ahby@aptest.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: If no datatype is specified for @datatime
To: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>


Although even if it is in orange, it should still be preceded with an '@'.
 All of our attribute references start with an '@'.  Or they should.


On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>wrote:
>
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-in-html/#additional-rdfa-processing-rules
>>>
>>> "If no datatype is specified, and the value does not match any of the
>>> automatically detected xsd datatypes, a plain literal must be generated
>>> with the associated language of the node, if available. "
>>>
>>> Could we be more precise regarding datatype here, and use "datatype
>>> attribute" instead of datatype. I'm particularly interested in the case
>>> where there is an empty datatype attribute with @datetime.
>>>
>>> to give more context, I found this part of the spec not very clear while
>> working on the easyrdf RDFa parser.
>>
>> in other words, what does "no datatype" means? does it include the
>> scenario when there is no datatype attribute and also when there is an
>> empty datatype attribute? or the former only? then what happens in the case
>> of the later?
>>
>>
>> In this context, "no datatype" means that there is no @datatype
>> attribute. If you have @datatype="", you have specified a datatype, which
>> is the empty datatype; this is consistent with the (former) treatment of
>> plain literals from non-text nodes.
>>
>
> ok, the plain text version of the spec doesn't it justice. looking at the
> HTML spec, datatype is in orange and therefore means the attribute, not
> datatype in general, so nevermind, I retract my proposal. The spec is fine
> as it is.
>
> Steph.
>
>
>>
>> It seems to me that a plain literal could be generated when there is an
>> empty @datatype (in line with RDFA-CORE).
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> To make a concrete proposal, add "If an empty datatype is present" to the
>> second sentence:
>> [[[
>> If datatype is specified, it must take precedence. If no datatype is
>> specified, and the value does not match any of the automatically detected
>> xsd datatypes, a plain literal must be generated with the associated
>> language of the node, if available.
>> ]]]
>> would become
>> [[[
>> If datatype is specified, it must take precedence. If an empty datatype
>> is present, or if no datatype is specified and the value does not match any
>> of the automatically detected xsd datatypes, a plain literal must be
>> generated with the associated language of the node, if available.
>> ]]]
>>
>>
>> Yes, but I thought you preferred saying "if there is no @datatype
>> attribute", to if the datatype is not specified.
>>
>> Gregg
>>
>> Steph.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steph.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Steph.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Steph.




-- 
Shane P. McCarron
Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.



-- 
Shane P. McCarron
Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.