- From: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:04:53 -0400
- To: public-html-comments@w3.org, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, public-rdfa-wg@w3.org
- CC: "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
SUMMARY Arising from its Last Call review of the HTML5 suite of specifications, the TAG wishes to raise issues on both the HTML microdata [1] and HTML+RDFa 1.1 [2] Working Drafts. Specifically, our opinion is that the W3C should not publish two specifications that meet such similar requirements in incompatible ways. We think doing so would cause confusion for users and implementers, promote lock-in, and fragment the web. We request that the W3C Director set up a task force to find agreement on a way forward. DETAIL The RDF data generated by microdata and RDFa processors is different both for documents containing no additional data markup and for documents that contain RDFa. This incompatibility might possibly be remedied by removing the relevant sections from the microdata specification, but there are deeper problems that arise from the fact that the two technologies do much the same thing in different ways. Users find it hard to choose which to use. It is hard for users to move between them because they are outwardly very similar but have differences in parsing algorithms that are not immediately obvious. From a publisher's point of view, using both within a document leads to repetition; using only one means locking yourself into a particular technology stack and set of consumers. Similarly, from an implementer or consumer's point of view, implementing both increases code quantity and complexity, but implementing only one excludes potential customers or data providers. Both specifications come from a community interested in publishing and consuming structured data within Web pages. The TAG's purpose here is not to comment on the relative merits of the technologies, nor to signal whether one or the other might have preferred status due to history of deployment. Rather, we are raising the issue that the W3C has before it two Last Call Working Drafts specifying capabilities that overlap and that will cause incompatibilities if deployed together. It would be irresponsible for the TAG not to attempt to help the community to reconcile the two specifications. We therefore suggest that W3C create a task force of people who are knowledgeable about publishing, processing and consuming structured data, including those invested in microdata, RDFa and microformats, to provide input and focus to the HTML WG in aligning the two specifications. We suggest the task force investigate options including, but not limited to: * combining RDFa and microdata into a single language with two conformance levels, with consistent processing between the two that enable advanced users to use more complex features that are recognised by advanced processors, without rendering their data invisible to simpler processors * combining RDFa and microdata into a single language that is a middle ground between the two technologies * retaining both microdata and RDFa as separate syntaxes, but ensuring that there is a clear story that enables users and implementers to choose which to use or implement, that both can be used within the same document without incompatibility in the RDF that is generated from them, that as much code as possible can be reused in their implementation, and that users can easily transition between the two syntaxes The task force should be tasked to strive towards compatibility with other W3C specifications, particularly HTML5. It should also take into consideration other existing specifications, and impacts on existing user and implementer communities. Thank you very much. Noah Mendelsohn for the W3C Technical Architecture Group [1]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-microdata-20110525/ [2]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-rdfa-in-html-20110525/
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