- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:21:37 +0100
- To: benjamin.adrian@dfki.de
- CC: RDFa WG <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4B98E051.2030803@w3.org>
I have a comment on the DOM interface on the wiki. I am little bit bothered by the fact that you mix the triple as a unit and the fact that an object/subject/predicate is a bnode, a literal etc. I would expect some sort of a hierarchy (forgive me, I am not sure how exactly to put this into Javascript syntax): Resource ! ---> Literal ---> BNode ---> URIRef and then use Resource for subject/object/predicate in RDFTriple I must admit that I am influenced by the way RDFLib does thing in Python... Ivan On 2010-3-10 15:17 , Benjamin Adrian wrote: > Hello, > > As it's my turn to give you some information about the RDFa DOM API > direction tomorrow, I'll tell you the current status. > > First questions I tried to answer were: > > Q1: Why to have an RDFa DOM API if there are plenty of RDFa parsers and > libraries out there? > A1: The RDFa DOM API is a chance to hide complex language constructs in > RDFa to > application developers > To understand what's really complex in handling RDFa, I looked into > source > code from: > * librdfa (C) > * pyRdfa-2.3.7 (Python) > * rdflib::RDFaParser (Python) > * RDFaParser (Java, uses XSLT) > * rdfquery (JavaScript) > * Operator (JavaScript, Firefox Plugin, uses XPath) > > My conclusions are: > 1. Developers spent most lines of code to filter DOM elements for > specific > attributes that may contain RDFa content. A DOM extension would remove > this effort. > 2. RDFa chaining forces RDFa Parsers developers to implement recursion or > use a pushdown automaton. > 3. A DOM API could not only extract RDF triple from DOM nodes, but may > also find DOM nodes with specific RDF content. This may be used for > highlighting elements with RDFa content as done by Operator. > 4. The option to use either URIs or CURIES in RDFa code should be > hidden by > the RDFa DOM API. > 5. In RDFa 1.1. Users may define external vocabulary definitions (either > vocab or profile). Again the RDFa DOM API should hide this. > > Q2: What should be the focus of this API? > A2: 1. Extract RDF triples from RDFa annotated HTML5 and XHTML pages. > 2. Query for RDFa enhanced DOM elements with RDF triple patterns. > (3. Add RDF triples as RDFa to DOM?) [3] > (4. Remove RDF triples as RDFa to DOM?) > > Q3: Where is the cut between RDFa DOM API and RDF Triple Store API (Knut)? > A3: The RDFa DOM API allows developers to use RDF triples inside the > DOM. It is > a rather low level API, whether the Triple Store API is set one level > higher. This Triple Store API may be implemented based on the RDFa > DOM API > and allow operations such as query the web page with SPARQL, and store > extracted triples to allow inferencing. > > Q4: What functionalities should be provided by the RDFa DOM API? > A4: The API should be designed by analysing the following tradeoff: > "Less programming effort for browser developers versus lightwight API > for > application developers." > => means: a few API methods that cover all use cases > => RDFa DOM API feeling should preserve the DOM feeling > > Q5: What concrete functions should be offered? > A5: I set up a wiki page [1] with a Web IDL draft specification. Please > conside that it is not complete and in parts a bit simplified. We can > use > this as base for discussion. > > Q6: Are there any Code Snippets showing us that the use of the specified > API > is efficient wrt. spent lines of code? > A6: Yes one :), I added a section at [2]. More will follow. Please also add > code that shows weaknesses of the current specification. > > So much for now. Please let me know if you agree, disagree or think I > misunderstood some things. > > Best regards, > > Benjamin > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/RDFa-DOM-API > [2] http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/RDFa-DOM-API#Code_Snippets > [3] You may read discussion about this in thread: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa/2010Feb/0031.html > -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF : http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf vCard : http://www.ivan-herman.net/HermanIvan.vcf
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