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Re: reified statements in Turtle

From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:46:39 -0400
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <20131016114637.GC25585@w3.org>
* Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> [2013-10-16 13:36+0200]
> 
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 13:21 , Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Ivan for the confirmation.
> > 
> > 
> > PROPOSED REPLY:
> > 
> >>> Dear Joe,
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry to say that for the reasons
> >>> below, the RDF WG has decided not to develop a shorthand syntax for
> >>> reified statements in Turtle:
> >>> 
> >>> There are no existing proposals.
> 
> Well, do not call for the guy coming in with a proposal and thereby invalidating your argument:-); better leave it out. I think the major argument is the next sentence:

fair point.


> >>> The Turtle REC will reflect current
> >>> practice in existing Turtle parsers/serializers, except where the
> >>> language is evolving to towards compatibility with SPARQL.
> >>> 
> >>> The community is mostly using named graphs to address the use cases
> >>> for which reification was intended.
> >>> 
> >>> The RDF WG is almost at the end of its charter. Any changes at all
> >>> would make if difficult to publish a Recommendation before the WG
> >>> closes. A re-design of the language to enable reification would
> >>> likely take a long time.
> >>> 
> 
> I am not sure this last paragraph is necessary. Not even relevant: I do not believe the WG would work on a specific reification syntax even if it had the time. 

I was hoping to persuade the commentor that even if they thought they could drum up support for a syntax for reification, we wouldn't be able to do it within this charter anyways.
That said, if you prefer I leave it out, I'm happy to.


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