- From: Guus Schreiber <guus.schreiber@vu.nl>
- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:29:58 +0100
- To: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine.champin@liris.cnrs.fr>
- CC: RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Pierre-Antoine, Thanks for your review! We will be worlomg this week on responses to you and Pat. Guus On 25-11-13 21:40, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote: > > Hi all, > > as per my action last week, here is my review of the Primer : > > * section 1, issue 2 "do we really need a roadmap section..." I think not. > > * section 3 : unlinke Pat, I'm ok with the "informal" examples, but it > should probably be made clearer that it is what they are, informal. This > is probably an occasion to present the notion of abstract/concrete syntax. > ** may be the pointy brackets should be replaced by quotes, making the > terms less IRI-like, and so more obviously informal > ** <This video document> didn't please Pat; I'm assuming that the word > "This" is contributing to that, as it may be interpreted as a self > reference to the graph at hand? How about "That video document"? > > * section 3.3 "The RDF Concepts document provides a list of datatypes" : > I would add "a (non exhaustive) list of datatypes", (with the > parenthesis) to prevent the wrong interpretation that those datatypes > are the only ones usable with RDF > > * section 3.4 Bland nodes : I share most of Pat's concerns in this section > ** "anonymous resource" is misleading, it reads indeed as a different > kind of resource; I would rephrase in the spirit of "resources for which > we don't have nor want to create an IRI" > ** I agree with Pat that the example is unlikely... I like his example > with the Cypress. > ** I also find it a bit extreme to state that blank nodes are rarely > used or should not be used; this note should probably be removed; it > really the account of blank nodes in Concepts or Semantics is deemed > "scary", such a reassuring note should be present in *those* documents > > * sectio, 3.5 Multiple graphs: is it intended that the examples IRIs are > sometimes in example.com <http://example.com>, and sometimes in > example.org <http://example.org> ? If there is a reason to it, it should > be made clearer. If not, then this should probably be removed. > > * section 4 RDF Vocabularies : > ** I agree with Pat that FOAF (or any other vocabulary) should not be > called a schema. A disambiguation note would probably be useful here, > explaining that the term "schema" in the RDF world does not mean the > same as in the XML or RDB world, and should probably never have been > used in the first place, as it is often *very* misleading, as my next > remark shows. > ** "subject and object of this property must be resources of class > ex:Person" is misleading. Replace "must be" by "is". The current > phrasing reads like it would be illegal to state <#bob> foaf:name > <#alice> and to *not* state that <bob> a foaf:Person. This is a very > common misunderstanding about RDFS, so we must be very careful not to > give this impression. > Just below, you write "to model groups of resources that can act as > subject or object". This (the word "can", especiallyà is misleading > again, as no resource is ever forbidden to act as subjet or object of > any property. Furthermore, I agree with Pat that this phrasing is > strange, and I like his proposal better. > > * table in section 4 : I propose that the syntactic form for Class be "s > rdf:type rdfs:Class", and that the description be "s is and RDF class". > Same for property. Agreed, this is a shortcut (rdfs:Class can > technically be used in other triples) but it is more homogeneous with > the rest of the table, and in my opinion easier to grasp. > > * section 5.1 Turtle, paragraph aboutl lines 1-6 > ** IRI should be used instead of URI > ** "The "base" prefix is used if no prefix is provided" this is > misleading; the base prefix is used for relative URIs inside pointy > brackets, while prefixed names have no brackets. I would rephrase the > whole section in the following spirit : > > 'In Turtle, IRIs are enclosed in pointy brackets <>. Relative IRIs are > resolved agains a base IRI, specified in line 1. > 'The following lines define IRI prefixes (such as foaf:), that can > further be use prefixed names (such as foaf:Person) instead of full IRIs. > 'The corresponding IRI is constructed by replacing the prefix with its > corresponding IRI (in this example, foaf:Person stands for > <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person>). > > Also, would'nt it be better to use SPARQL-like prefixes, as they are > compatible with SPARQL, precisely? (but granted, they would break > compatibility with older Turtle parsers, so I'm not sure about it). > > * section 5.1 Turtle, paragraph about line 9 : I would elicit the fact > that it should be read "bob (is) a Person" > > * section 5.1 Turtle, paragraph about string literals : why not use the > string "Leonardo da Vinci" as an example, since it is present in the > example? And furthermore, it is confusing afterwards to use "Leonardo da > Vinci"@it as an example, as it does not appear in the example. Or should > it? Finally, in "The datatype of language-tagged strings is not specifed > explictly in Turtle", I would replace "not" by "never". > > * section 5.3 Other concrete syntaxes : it is not true that RDF/XML was > the only official concrete syntax: RDFa was already recommended by the W3C. > > * section 6 Semantics : not sure what you plan to do with the > ex:Marriage example, but I'm affraid this is a very exotic feature that > will not appeal to many readers. A more interesting feature (IMO) would > be to show how a resource can be treated both as a class and as an instance. > > * Annex A : I didn't check if all the examples provided the same data as > the Turtle (resp. Trig) example, but that would be a good idea. It seems > that the multi-graph JSON-LD does not contain the triples from the > default graph. > > * Annex A.2 : I think a third example, using "simple" JSON with a > slightly more complex @context, would nicely illustrate how JSON-LD can > leverage "idiomatic" JSON to RDF. If you think that is a good idea, I > volunteer to write that example. > > pa > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Guus Schreiber <guus.schreiber@vu.nl > <mailto:guus.schreiber@vu.nl>> wrote: > > All, > > Yves, and I think that the Primer is ready for a first round of review > by the WG. The Editor's Draft is here: > > https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html# > > We are still working on Sec. 7 (RDF Data), but would welcome comments on > the rest. > > Guus > >
Received on Tuesday, 26 November 2013 21:30:23 UTC