Re: status RDF Primer

On 11/13/13 1:52 PM, Guus Schreiber wrote:
> On 13-11-13 19:25, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> On 11/13/13 9:10 AM, Guus Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>> Yves and I have made quite some progress on the Primer (see the
>>> Editor's Draft [1]). I expect we will have first version for WG review
>>> by Friday. I cannot attend the telecon today, but maybe we can already
>>> look for reviewers.
>>>
>>> Guus
>>>
>>> PS Apologies, but due to the Primer work I haven't been able to
>>> complete my action about reviewing Antoine's note.
>>>
>>> [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-primer/index.html#
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is it possible for the following to be presented modulo use of namespace
>> prefixes?
>>
>> EXAMPLE 3
>> 01    @base <http://example.org/> .
>> 02    @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .
>> 03    @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#> .
>> 04    @prefix schema: <http://schema.org/> .
>> 05    @prefix dcterms: <http://purl.org/dc/terms/> .
>> 06    @prefix wd: <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/> .
>> 07
>> 08    <bob#me>
>> 09        a foaf:Person ;
>> 10        foaf:knows <alice#me> ;
>> 11        schema:birthDate "1990-07-04"^^xsd:date ;
>> 12        foaf:topic_interest wd:Q12418 .
>> 13
>> 14    <http://viaf.org/viaf/24604287/>
>> 15        a foaf:Person ;
>> 16        foaf:name "Leonardo da Vinci" .
>> 17
>> 18    wd:Q12418
>> 19        dcterms:creator <http://viaf.org/viaf/24604287/> .
>> 20
>> 21
>> <http://data.europeana.eu/item/04802/243FA8618938F4117025F17A8B813C5F9AA4D61set> 
>>
>>
>> 22        dcterms:subject wd:Q12418 .
>>
>> Yes, I know the historic assumption is that prefixes alleviate
>> verbosity, but in my experience that isn't actually true i.e., the
>> aesthetic pursuit actually impedes comprehension.
>
> Kingsley,
>
> Thanks for your comment, and also for providing an alternative example!
>
> It is probably a matter of personal taste or aesthetics, but I for 
> myself find the version with prefixes easier to comprehend.

Yes, but the primer isn't for the likes of you and I, which is my 
fundamental point.

> What I suggest to do for now it is to mark this up in the document as 
> a potential change and ask feedback. Hope that's OK with you.

Yes, certainly.

Note, even when reading this mail, my example exposes more live links 
(in plain sight) which ultimately help users appreciate the combined 
power of RDF triples and HTTP URIs :-)


Kingsley
>
> Guus
>
>>
>> Here's the revision, edited while crafting this response:
>>
>> # Example 3 -- RDF Primer #
>>      <bob#me>
>>          <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
>> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> ;
>>          <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> <alice#me> ;
>>          <http://schema.org/birthDate>
>> "1990-07-04"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> ;
>>          <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/topic_interest>
>> <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12418> .
>>
>>      <http://viaf.org/viaf/24604287/>
>>         <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
>> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> ;
>>         <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "Leonardo da Vinci" .
>>
>>     <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12418>
>>        <http://purl.org/dc/terms/creator>
>> <http://viaf.org/viaf/24604287/> .
>>
>> <http://data.europeana.eu/item/04802/243FA8618938F4117025F17A8B813C5F9AA4D61set> 
>>
>>
>>         <http://purl.org/dc/terms/subject>
>> <http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12418> .
>>
>> # Example End #
>>
>> [1]
>> http://id.myopenlink.net/DAV/home/KingsleyUyiIdehen/Public/LInked%20Data%20Documents/w3c-rdf-primer-turtle-example3.ttl 
>>
>> -- live version .
>>
>
>


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