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Re: [TURTLE] Turtle Inverse Properties

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:32:48 -0400
Message-ID: <5034FBA0.3000205@openlinksw.com>
To: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
On 8/22/12 10:57 AM, Steve Harris wrote:
> On 2012-08-22, at 15:30, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> On 8/22/12 10:00 AM, Yves Raimond wrote:
>>>>> @rev is a good example. There's cases in RDFa where it reduces the complexity (well, at least number of bytes) of saying things a lot, but it causes a lot of confusion in people new to RDFa. RDF is complex enough as it is IMHO.
>>> Yes, it's definitely a trade-off, but IMHO the balance tends towards adding a mechanism similar to @rev in Turtle.
>>> Best,
>>> Yves
>> +1
>> Remember, the fact that it becomes part of the standard doesn't mean its an entry point re. usage. The benefit here is that you end up with syntax sugar awaiting the fully engaged end-user. As I said in an earlier post, one an end-user is engaged they make a quantum leap for bashful neophyte to edge-case maniac. It happens all the time with software. Thus, why not have a pleasant surprise (in the form of syntax sugar)  in place for this inevitability?
> The problem is reading, not writing. Either:
> It will be reasonably common in use (like "a" in Turtle), so people will need to learn what it means
>     or
> It will be obscure (like parseType Literal in RDF/XML), arguably a failure, hardly ever used in automated serialisations, mostly being a source of bugs and complexity in parsers.
> There's also some middle ground where it will be neither obscure, nor common, but that's the worst case.
> - Steve

I want people to write, then let machines do the reading. Ultimately, 
even let machines do most of the writing etc.. The challenge always lies 
in the initial bootstrap. I want this whole thing demystified as its 
artificially complex, IMHO.



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