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Re: [JSON] Elephant in the room

From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:06:42 +0000
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDF WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <D9E6F746-8FD3-4EE0-9FDB-73364C77655B@cyganiak.de>
To: Zhe Wu <alan.wu@oracle.com>

On 23 Mar 2011, at 18:17, Zhe Wu wrote:
> Fundamentally, I think it is not hard to a developer to be able to learn a bit RDF and
> start consuming data in triples. It is not the same as requesting that developer to fully understand
> graph modeling, semantics, etc.
> It is just another data source.

Well that's an interesting opinion, but this WG has been chartered [1] to produce an RDF syntax in JSON. That decision has been made after a survey [2] that indicated a strong desire for this feature [3], both from W3C members and the general RDF user community. That's why we now discuss how to best meet this obligation imposed by the charter.


[1] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/rdf-wg-charter
[2] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/rdf-2010/results
[3] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/rdf-2010/results#xg3

> Zhe
>> Until there is something to replace the 'M' in the LAMP
>> stack for RDF applications, we're not going to see a change in the way
>> Web developers develop.
>> For example, our company needs to store roughly 100 billion+ triples per
>> year of financial transaction data. We're currently using a home-built
>> MySQL solution for our storage mechanism, we will probably migrate to
>> MongoDB in time. We have no free, open source choice for storing this
>> information - nobody does. So the idea that the average web developer is
>> backed by a triple store is a terrible assumption to make. The only
>> thing that even remotely comes close to scaling for us is MongoDB and
>> MongoDB speaks JSON (specifically, BSON).
>> When you have a triple store and SPARQL, you tend to see the world
>> differently. Much of the world doesn't have a triple store, so they
>> don't share the world view that roughly half of this working group shares.
>> -- manu
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