- From: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:33:12 +0100
- To: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Le 17/12/2011 17:02, Pat Hayes a écrit : > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Sandro Hawke wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 10:29 +0000, William Waites wrote: >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 00:43:38 -0500, Sandro Hawke<sandro@w3.org> >>> said: >>> >>> sandro> We haven't quite figured that out yet. I'm proposing >>> one sandro> part of that is that a dataset being true implies >>> its sandro> default graph is true. > >> In terms of an entailment test: >> >> <a> {<b> <c> <d> } >> >> does NOT entail >> >> {<b> <c> <d> } >> > > > Really?? Is this generally accepted, or is it your own conclusion? > Because this has the (to me surprising) consequence that publishing a > dataset does not assert ANY of the named graphs in it. Which leaves > me wondering what the point of having datasets can possibly be in the > first place. Does the Semantic Web consist mostly of unasserted > fiction? As I hope people won't be publishing datasets, there really isn't any problem with this. Really, we have to preserve the triple format as the standard way of publishing data on the Web. Datasets should only be an exchange format and data model for systems that manage data. If we ever see the emergence of datasets as the dominant way of publishing data online, then we face the problem of having to compartiment datasets from different sources, and go for N-Quints and define Dataset-sets and reiterate all the hard work of this WG later. Once you acknowledge this, you understand that the "named" graphs inside the datasets are just saying "there is an RDF graph containing those triples, it is labelled with this 'name' and we don't care whether it is asserted or not". Do we care whether a relational table is "asserting" something in a database? > > Pat > > ------------------------------------------------------------ IHMC > (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 40 South Alcaniz St. > (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 > 4440 fax FL 32502 (850)291 0667 > mobile phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes > > > > > > > -- Antoine Zimmermann ISCOD / LSTI - Institut Henri Fayol École Nationale Supérieure des Mines de Saint-Étienne 158 cours Fauriel 42023 Saint-Étienne Cedex 2 France Tél:+33(0)4 77 42 83 36 Fax:+33(0)4 77 42 66 66 http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/
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