- From: Andy Seaborne <andy@apache.org>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:23:56 +0000
- To: public-rdf-star@w3.org
On 08/12/2021 08:07, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote: > > On 07/12/2021 22:25, Peter Patel-Schneider wrote: >> On Tue, 2021-12-07 at 14:52 +0100, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote: >>> In LPGs as well, there is a point were modelling marriages or pipes >>> as edges will hit a wall. More specifically, if you want to relate >>> them to other *nodes* of the graph (link a marriage to its location, >>> link a pipe to its manufacturer), you also need to reifiy them as >>> nodes. >> I see some formulations of property graphs where edges can only be >> related to values, but is that really the case for all property graphs? > > I have never seen an explicit definition of "Property Graphs" where this > was not the case (but I have not seen them all, of course). > > I also have the feeling that allowing nodes as property values would > pervert the idea of PGs, where the distinction between the internal > structure of nodes (properties) and relation with other nodes (edges) is > considered an important feature. Looking at some of the JSON serializations at property graphs - they don't allow for edges to be nodes. There are two styles: * Nodes have integer ids, and edges are represented by start-end id pairs and a label. * Edges have ids but the numbering of nodes and edges starts separately at 0 so there are different numbering spaces. Both cases mean only attributes on edges. Andy > >> (Well, if you think of Wikibase as a property graph formulation then >> there is at least one counterexample.) > > It never occurred to me to put Wikibase in the "Property Graph" family. > I see some similarities, but also many differences. In particular, the > distinction I mentioned above (between "properties" and "edges" of a > node, in PG parlance) does not exist in Wikibase, where there all > represented as "statements" (except for labels and descriptions... but I > hope you see my point). > > pa > >> >> peter >> >>
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