- From: Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2024 15:04:05 +0200
- To: Franconi Enrico <franconi@inf.unibz.it>
- Cc: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>, "public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org" <public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org>
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 7:00 PM Franconi Enrico <franconi@inf.unibz.it> wrote: > > > > > On 6 Jun 2024, at 18:58, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > There has been a "minimum" baseline around for quite some time. Its current incarnation is at https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/RDF-star-profile-%22transparent%22 > > I agree that the above could be considered really as the bare minimum baseline. Yes, well it did appear to be the baseline some months ago. Then objections were raised (on the list) that the reifiers were many-to-many, and thus too flexible (an effect of this approach being simpler). Open issues (without numbers) seem to be: 1. Do reifiers capture the notion of statements about statements or not? (Debated on the list; nothing resolved in a meeting.) 2. They might not be "isomorphic with LPG expectations'' (reifiers are more powerful, LPGs look more like a kind of singleton property pattern, from an RDF POV). 3. Reifiers are arguably a superset of classical RDF reifications (but not fully isomorphic); the latter being "tokens of statements" (albeit not always used/understood as such), and while informal, thus without a defined well-formedness, they're used in the wild. Resolving those appear to call for a functional restriction, i.e. a stricter triple occurrence, being the annotation (or token!) of a single triple. For that, opacity and functional well-formedness appears necessary. Opacity being less "harmful" since equality of two distinct triples is logically false(?) rather than entailing unexpected identity, IIUC? It also comes with this feature to go outside of interpretation into the terms for opaque data management (a mechanism only seen in graph names before). (It appears much more complex; but I'm trying to get to the bottom of it; especially whether it is better or worse for users at large.) But I could see the transparent profile as the baseline and view the above as open issues on it. Or, conversely, accept viewing them as requirements under criticism. Until those are resolved, everything's at risk either way. Best regards, Niklas > —e.
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