- From: Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:03:28 -0800
- To: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <943915BC-7389-4CF4-BAD8-B4AB9195C290@greggkellogg.net>
> On Nov 16, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 11, 2023, at 03:23 PM, Gregg Kellogg <gregg@greggkellogg.net <mailto:gregg@greggkellogg.net>> wrote: >> Regarding the different possibilities outlined above: RDF is a system for describing graphs/datasets composed of triples/statements. > > This sentence is problematic in many ways. > > "Triples" and "statements" are generally interchangeable terms. N-Triples describes “triples", while N-Quads describes “statements” or “quads". We don’t define a distinction formally, but I was using this a short-hand for triples in a graph vs in a dataset. > RDF is a system for describing *anything* with triples/statements. > > However, "graph" and "dataset" are *not* generally interchangeable > terms, as is suggested by the above. > > Graphs are composed of triples/statements. > > Datasets are composed of graphs. This is correct, but we have also expanded the Dataset section to take a view of a Dataset being composed of a set of Quads. >> IMHO, the fundamental building block should be a graph > > > The fundamental building block of RDF is and IMHO must remain > a *triple*. > > Graphs are certainly necessary, as soon as data gets at all > complicated, temporal, multiply sourced, etc, but since graphs > are composed of triples, graphs cannot be the fundament. I meant that the fundamental building block for quotation and annotation would be a graph, rather than a triple. We could decide to do both, > Otherwise, I largely agree with what you said, and could > probably go along with any of your numbered options. At this > point, we *probably* need to choose an option that requires > less work hours, and we *definitely* need to choose an option > that lays the fewest roadblocks in front of (potential) future > work, which seems near inevitable and hopefully would be the > focus of a near-future WG charter. +1 Gregg > It seems to me that we will need pro/con columns for each of > the numbered options to make much progress from here. I'm > certain that I see tradeoffs with each, though it's more than > I can do state them just now. > > Ted > > > > > > -- > A: Yes. http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html > | Q: Are you sure? > | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > > Ted Thibodeau, Jr. // tel:+1-781-273-0900,1,32 > Senior Support & Evangelism // mailto:tthibodeau@openlinksw.com > // http://twitter.com/TallTed > OpenLink Software, Inc. // http://www.openlinksw.com <http://www.openlinksw.com/> > 117 Kendrick Street, Suite 300, Needham Heights, MA 02494-2722 > Weblog -- http://www.openlinksw.com/blogs/ > Community -- https://community.openlinksw.com/ > LinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/company/openlink-software/ > Twitter -- http://twitter.com/OpenLink > Facebook -- http://www.facebook.com/OpenLinkSoftware > Universal Data Access, Integration, and Management Technology Providers > > >
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