- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:03:48 -0700
- To: Irene Polikoff <irene@topquadrant.com>
- Cc: public-rdf-shapes@w3.org
It is important for interoperability that SHACL Core implementations are
required to *not* silently produce different results on valid shapes graphs.
Instead they must be required to signal that they have been given a shapes
graph that they do not completely handle.
peter
On 04/21/2017 12:01 PM, Irene Polikoff wrote:
> But, of course, SHACL Core and SHACL-SPARQL implementations will produce different results. This is by design.
>
> SHACL Core processors do not support SHACL-SPARQL. By definition, a SHACL Core and a SHACL SPARQL processors are only interoperable for a subset of SHACL which is SHACL Core and sh:sparql is not in SHACL Core.
>
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A SHACL implementation that silently ignores sh:sparql constructs produces an
>> interoperability nightmare.
>>
>> For example, such an implementation will produce no violations for the shape
>> ex:sparql a sh:NodeShape ;
>> sh:targetNode ex:i ;
>> sh:sparql "SELECT ?this WHERE { }" .
>> A SHACL-SPARQL implementation will instead produce a violation.
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>> On 04/21/2017 03:39 AM, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> If your implementation is SHACL Core only, how could SHACL-SPARQL constructs affect it? It would seem to me that the values in the sh:spraql triples would be no different to it than values in the ex:foo (or any user defined predicate) triples.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My alt-SHACL implementation does complete syntax checking, signalling whenever
>>>> in encounters a shape or path or list that is not correctly formed. My
>>>> implementation has a strict mode that signals whenever the putative shapes
>>>> graph contains anything that violates any of the SHACL Core syntax rules or
>>>> contains a recursive shape or contains SHACL-SPARQL constructs that could
>>>> affect validation. To test this checking I had put together an RDF graph
>>>> containing a comprehensive set of constructs that need to be checked.
>>>>
>>>> I just updated this graph, and the associated checking code, to incorporate
>>>> the numerous additional syntax rules that were added when the SHACL document
>>>> became a candidate recommendation. I include the graph here. It can be
>>>> turned into a comprehensive set of syntax test cases for SHACL Core by just
>>>> separating it into small graphs each containing one of the test shapes.
>>>>
>>>> The amount of code required to do complete syntax checking was quite modest.
>>>> Running my implementation over the graph was helpful in finding bugs such as
>>>> incorrect recursion checks in the path code. I strongly recommend that every
>>>> SHACL implementation be run on every shape in this graph.
>>>>
>>>> Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>>>> Nuance Communications
>>>> <syntax.ttl>
>
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