- From: Irene Polikoff <irene@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:01:56 -0400
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-rdf-shapes@w3.org
But, of course, SHACL Core and SHACL-SPARQL implementations will produce different results. This is by design.
SHACL Core processors do not support SHACL-SPARQL. By definition, a SHACL Core and a SHACL SPARQL processors are only interoperable for a subset of SHACL which is SHACL Core and sh:sparql is not in SHACL Core.
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A SHACL implementation that silently ignores sh:sparql constructs produces an
> interoperability nightmare.
>
> For example, such an implementation will produce no violations for the shape
> ex:sparql a sh:NodeShape ;
> sh:targetNode ex:i ;
> sh:sparql "SELECT ?this WHERE { }" .
> A SHACL-SPARQL implementation will instead produce a violation.
>
> peter
>
>
> On 04/21/2017 03:39 AM, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> If your implementation is SHACL Core only, how could SHACL-SPARQL constructs affect it? It would seem to me that the values in the sh:spraql triples would be no different to it than values in the ex:foo (or any user defined predicate) triples.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 12:45 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My alt-SHACL implementation does complete syntax checking, signalling whenever
>>> in encounters a shape or path or list that is not correctly formed. My
>>> implementation has a strict mode that signals whenever the putative shapes
>>> graph contains anything that violates any of the SHACL Core syntax rules or
>>> contains a recursive shape or contains SHACL-SPARQL constructs that could
>>> affect validation. To test this checking I had put together an RDF graph
>>> containing a comprehensive set of constructs that need to be checked.
>>>
>>> I just updated this graph, and the associated checking code, to incorporate
>>> the numerous additional syntax rules that were added when the SHACL document
>>> became a candidate recommendation. I include the graph here. It can be
>>> turned into a comprehensive set of syntax test cases for SHACL Core by just
>>> separating it into small graphs each containing one of the test shapes.
>>>
>>> The amount of code required to do complete syntax checking was quite modest.
>>> Running my implementation over the graph was helpful in finding bugs such as
>>> incorrect recursion checks in the path code. I strongly recommend that every
>>> SHACL implementation be run on every shape in this graph.
>>>
>>> Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>>> Nuance Communications
>>> <syntax.ttl>
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