- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:30:37 +1000
- To: Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "public-rdf-sha." <public-rdf-shapes@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4c8b78ee-ce72-d4c1-2164-40441f6edad0@topquadrant.com>
See the General Information section at https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/ "This Candidate Recommendation is expected to advance to Proposed Recommendation no earlier than 09 May 2017." I hope we can make it no later than that date :) Holger On 12/04/2017 23:58, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > Apologies if this was discussed already but I missed the last meetings > and didn't see anything on the minutes, > what is the timeline for this? > > Thanks, > Dimitris > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Holger Knublauch > <holger@topquadrant.com <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>> wrote: > > For anyone working on implementations: > > The Test Suite is work in progress but I believe the tests that > are already there do have quite a good coverage. So please take a > look and feel free to submit (intermediate) implementation reports > using the EARL format as outlined in the Test Suite document: > > http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-test-suite/ > <http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-test-suite/> > > Note that this includes engines that only return true/false > conformance instead of the full report - these would still be of > interest. > > If you feel that certain test cases are missing, please submit or > request them. > > In order for SHACL to proceed to the final stages of the W3C > process, we need to demonstrate that each feature of SHACL has > been implemented by at least two independent implementations. No > single implementation must support all features (although > TopBraid's SHACL API does AFAIK). > > Please contribute where you can for these important next steps. > > Thanks, > Holger > > > > On 12/04/2017 0:51, Sandro Hawke wrote: >>> >>> >>> Shapes Constraint Language (SHACL) >>> >>> >>> W3C Candidate Recommendation 11 April 2017 >>> >>> This version: >>> https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/CR-shacl-20170411/ >>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/CR-shacl-20170411/> >>> Latest published version: >>> https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/ >>> >> >> Now the real work starts. :-) >> >> (Seriously, now we need to finish up the test suite and get some >> interoperable implementations, as soon as possible.) >> >> On Peter's formal objections, my summary of the Director's >> decision (apologies for oversimplifying): >> >>> 1. Node shapes and property shapes have different features. Details at >>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO1 >>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO1>. >>> On this, the WG took some steps to address the Objection, but stopped >>> short of satisfying the objector. The Director considers the remaining >>> substantive issue to be support for Generalized RDF, which he believes >>> is important. As such, he is requiring the Working Group to avoid >>> unnecessarily obstructing the use of literals as subjects. To allow for >>> this change to be properly investigated, certain syntactic restrictions >>> have been marked At Risk and may be removed during CR. >>> >>> 2. Require a mode that checks if a shapes graph is ill-formed. Details >>> athttps://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO2 >>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO2>. >>> On this, the Director agrees that syntax checking of shapes graphs is >>> important, but not that it should be a mandatory feature. As a >>> middle-ground solution, the Director required the group to provide a >>> shapes graph which can be used to check shapes graphs, where practical >>> within the language. This is now included as a normative appendix in the >>> specification and will be part of the test suite. >>> >>> 3. Pre-binding issues are not sufficiently resolved. Details at >>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO3 >>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO3>. >>> On this, given that relevant part of the specification is marked At >>> Risk, the Director has decided to overrule the objection. The Director >>> hopes the relevant questions can be sufficiently settled by >>> implementation experience during CR. Failing that, the features may be >>> moved to a non-Rec-track document. >> >> Not perfect, but still good work, folks! >> >> -- Sandro > > > > > -- > Dimitris Kontokostas > Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig & DBpedia > Association > Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://rdfunit.aksw.org, > http://aligned-project.eu > Homepage: http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas > Research Group: AKSW/KILT http://aksw.org/Groups/KILT
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