- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:30:37 +1000
- To: Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, "public-rdf-sha." <public-rdf-shapes@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4c8b78ee-ce72-d4c1-2164-40441f6edad0@topquadrant.com>
See the General Information section at
https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/
"This Candidate Recommendation is expected to advance to Proposed
Recommendation no earlier than 09 May 2017."
I hope we can make it no later than that date :)
Holger
On 12/04/2017 23:58, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
> Apologies if this was discussed already but I missed the last meetings
> and didn't see anything on the minutes,
> what is the timeline for this?
>
> Thanks,
> Dimitris
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Holger Knublauch
> <holger@topquadrant.com <mailto:holger@topquadrant.com>> wrote:
>
> For anyone working on implementations:
>
> The Test Suite is work in progress but I believe the tests that
> are already there do have quite a good coverage. So please take a
> look and feel free to submit (intermediate) implementation reports
> using the EARL format as outlined in the Test Suite document:
>
> http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-test-suite/
> <http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-test-suite/>
>
> Note that this includes engines that only return true/false
> conformance instead of the full report - these would still be of
> interest.
>
> If you feel that certain test cases are missing, please submit or
> request them.
>
> In order for SHACL to proceed to the final stages of the W3C
> process, we need to demonstrate that each feature of SHACL has
> been implemented by at least two independent implementations. No
> single implementation must support all features (although
> TopBraid's SHACL API does AFAIK).
>
> Please contribute where you can for these important next steps.
>
> Thanks,
> Holger
>
>
>
> On 12/04/2017 0:51, Sandro Hawke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Shapes Constraint Language (SHACL)
>>>
>>>
>>> W3C Candidate Recommendation 11 April 2017
>>>
>>> This version:
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/CR-shacl-20170411/
>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/CR-shacl-20170411/>
>>> Latest published version:
>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/
>>>
>>
>> Now the real work starts. :-)
>>
>> (Seriously, now we need to finish up the test suite and get some
>> interoperable implementations, as soon as possible.)
>>
>> On Peter's formal objections, my summary of the Director's
>> decision (apologies for oversimplifying):
>>
>>> 1. Node shapes and property shapes have different features. Details at
>>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO1
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO1>.
>>> On this, the WG took some steps to address the Objection, but stopped
>>> short of satisfying the objector. The Director considers the remaining
>>> substantive issue to be support for Generalized RDF, which he believes
>>> is important. As such, he is requiring the Working Group to avoid
>>> unnecessarily obstructing the use of literals as subjects. To allow for
>>> this change to be properly investigated, certain syntactic restrictions
>>> have been marked At Risk and may be removed during CR.
>>>
>>> 2. Require a mode that checks if a shapes graph is ill-formed. Details
>>> athttps://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO2
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO2>.
>>> On this, the Director agrees that syntax checking of shapes graphs is
>>> important, but not that it should be a mandatory feature. As a
>>> middle-ground solution, the Director required the group to provide a
>>> shapes graph which can be used to check shapes graphs, where practical
>>> within the language. This is now included as a normative appendix in the
>>> specification and will be part of the test suite.
>>>
>>> 3. Pre-binding issues are not sufficiently resolved. Details at
>>> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO3
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/CRFO3>.
>>> On this, given that relevant part of the specification is marked At
>>> Risk, the Director has decided to overrule the objection. The Director
>>> hopes the relevant questions can be sufficiently settled by
>>> implementation experience during CR. Failing that, the features may be
>>> moved to a non-Rec-track document.
>>
>> Not perfect, but still good work, folks!
>>
>> -- Sandro
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dimitris Kontokostas
> Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig & DBpedia
> Association
> Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://rdfunit.aksw.org,
> http://aligned-project.eu
> Homepage: http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas
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