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Re: Proposed change to the charter, section 4. Deliverables, Recommendation Track

From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:05:45 -0400
To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Cc: public-rdf-shapes@w3.org, Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
Message-ID: <20140808020544.GD32749@w3.org>
* Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> [2014-08-07 18:41-0700]
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2014 06:33 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
> >* Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> [2014-08-07 17:41-0700]
> >>
> >>
> >>On 08/07/2014 05:24 PM, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
> >>>
> >>>On Aug 7, 2014 12:44 AM, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com
> >>><mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>Well, I did present what I thought was a good neutral set of deliverables,
> >>>namely
> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>>3. OPTIONAL A specification of how shape verification interacts with
> >>>>inference.
> >>>
> >>>I think this one feel off radar. Did you see any support for this?
> >>
> >>Well, it was supposed to be a better version of the normalization requirement.
> >
> >I think I'm not getting the connection. I'd expect that inference
> >would allow one to say that e.g. a myco:Employee is subclass of a
> >foaf:Person before enforcing a rule that required the foaf:Person arc
> >on employee records. I thought that normalization was about
> >predictably ordering the arcs. Is my model wrong, or perhaps one
> >conversationed morphed into the other? More importantly to my task at
> >hand, should I continue to track this?
> 
> I had thought that the normalization deliverable was to handle RDF
> or RDFS inference.  I couldn't imagine any other use for
> normalization as related to shape checking.

I had thought it was about ordering triples to optimize various
processes like parsing, querying, and hanging on Christmas trees.
As far as I can tell, we don't have critical support for normalization.


> >>>>4. OPTIONAL A compact, human-readable syntax for expressing shapes.
> >>>>
> >>>>peter
> 
> peter

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