- From: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
- Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:25:35 +1000
- To: public-rdf-shapes@w3.org
Do you think JSON-LD might be an acceptable compromise for your users, or not? Roughly like (untested): { "@context" : "http://w3.org/2014/shapes/context", "@id" : "ex:Person", "constraint" : { "type" : "shapes:Property", "property" : "ex:firstName", "occurs" : "shapes:Exactly-one", "valueType" : "xsd:string" } } Holger On 8/5/2014 10:06, Jeremy J Carroll wrote: > I share some of Karen's concerns. > > At Syapse we are integrating our RDF based systems with legacy systems such as HL7 systems. > The engineers dealing with the legacy systems don't think RDF, don't know RDF, they don't want to know RDF. > They don't think open world or closed world, etc. > > Given that the legacy system (like many legacy systems) is (overly?) complicated we don't want to add a layer of over-complication of our own; however we do want to have expressive power to deal with the complications in the patterns if that is appropriate. > > I feel that this use case (HL7/RDF integration) shares some of the issues that Karen seems concerned about: the pattern language is being used to communicate with engineers who are not RDF literate, and do not want to be. > > Jeremy > > > > On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net> wrote: > >> On 3 Aug 2014 at 17:19, Karen Coyle wrote: >>> Actually, the "compact, human readable syntax" is what I am most >>> interested in. It may need to be built on top of what the group >>> develops, but without it, the community I am most interested in will not >>> be able to participate, as we will have few members with the technical >>> skills to express constraints in something resembling, for example, a >>> complex SPARQL query. >>> >>> I posted a reply to this thread that no one has replied to, so it is >>> sitting there sadly orphaned. Briefly, what I do not see anywhere in >>> this conversation any mention of WHO is the target of this >>> "deliverable". >> That's indeed a very important question that has, IMO as well, been mostly ignored so far. >> >> >>> There is a great deal of discussion of the technology but >>> almost none of the real world in which it will operate, and zero >>> discussion of the target skill set of the intended implementers. As so >>> often seems to happen in standards work, the skill set of the members of >>> the standards group is assumed as the target skill set of all users. >> Since this group is working on RDF validation and not JSON or XML validation, I think it is fair to assume at least some knowledge of RDF. As such, I think a "compact, human readable RDF-based syntax" is a very reasonable thing. I'm not too much a fan of introducing yet another (serialization) format/syntax. >> >> >> -- >> Markus Lanthaler >> @markuslanthaler >> >> >> >> >
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