- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:23:15 +0100
- To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
- Cc: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>, Michael Bolger <michael@michaelbolger.net>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, peter.krantz@gmail.com
- Message-ID: <479EFE93.5080201@w3.org>
Shane, - HTML4 is not in XML, right? I just wonder whether the very DOM oriented processing steps would be appropriate. What seems to be relatively straightforward is an XHTML1.0+RDFa, the question is whether doing the corresponding DTD would be that easy. - The real issue is, however, HTML5. And that is only where a crystal ball would help:-) Ivan Shane McCarron wrote: > I would be more than happy to assist in such an effort. However, I > personally think we should produce a rec-track profile for RDFa in HTML4 > straight away. The current rdfa-syntax document's structure is designed > with creating such profiles in mind. The ONLY difference between RDFa > in HTML4 and XHTML+RDFa is how prefixes are declared IMHO. If we could > agree on a mechanism for that I think we would be ~done. > > Hausenblas, Michael wrote: >> Ivan, Michael, >> >> I support Ivan's proposal of a separate WG Note. >> If and when we start this activity I volunteer for >> taking lead on it ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Michael >> >> BTW, I cc'd Peter, as he showed some interest regarding HTML5 and RDFa >> a while ago (not sure if you are subscribed >> to the RDFa mailing list, Peter?). >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Michael Hausenblas, MSc. >> Institute of Information Systems & Information Management >> JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH >> http://www.joanneum.at/iis/ >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org >>> [mailto:public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Herman >>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:18 AM >>> To: Michael Bolger >>> Cc: RDFa >>> Subject: Re: Section 1 of the New RDFa Syntax Draft ready for reviews >>> >>> Sigh...:-( >>> >>> As an alternative... >>> >>> This document, as a Rec, defines an XHTML1 variant, ie, is based on >>> XHTML1. I am not sure it would be appropriate to discuss non XHTML1 >>> issues *within the document* (let alone the fact that this would slow >>> down the progress of the document on Rec path). >>> >>> What about planning for a separate WG Note instead that would give >>> information on how these attributes can be used in a non-XHTML1 >>> setting. Such an informative note would be of a great value... (I >>> know that we were playing of defining the attributes without any >>> reference to any host language; that note would be somewhere between >>> the two). >>> >>> I guess the issue about HTML5 is the question of extensibility, ie, >>> of validation. (And I do not think there is a clear view on that in >>> the HTML group either.) *If* this issue is put aside, the RDFa >>> specification could be used with (well, invalid) HTML5 documents when >>> using HTML5's XML serialization. There is nothing, as far as I can >>> see, in the process description of the RDFa attributes that would be >>> dependent on a particular HTML in XML version, it just describes >>> things in terms of a DOM tree operation. I am not sure about the >>> non-XML HTML5, simply because I lack the necessary knowledge on how >>> this is handled with no DOM tree around... >>> >>> Just my 2 cents... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ivan >>> >>> Michael Bolger wrote: >>> >>>> I suggest a proactive approach toward a troubling >>>> development concerning IE8 [1] [2], what effect >>>> will it be if they fail to support XHTML? Also with >>>> HTML5 <!DOCTYPE html> [3] + profile issues. >>>> >>>> In Section 1 please include a brief , highly informative >>>> (relationship) projection about HTML5, I want to >>>> see the plan ahead, will all the work to create >>>> XHTML+RDFa documents now; survive (etc.). >>>> They might not make it through section 2.:) >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> >>> http://realtech.burningbird.net/standards/bobbing-heads-and-the >>> -ie8-meta-tag/ >>>> [2] http://www.molly.com/2008/01/24/me-ie8-and-microsoft-versioning/ >>>> [3] http://ejohn.org/blog/html5-doctype/ >>>> [4] http://ejohn.org/blog/html5-shiv/ >>>> -interesting "once you create a new DOM element" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank You >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>> PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html >>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>> >>> >> >> > -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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