Re: RDFa for HTML imagemap accessibility and clipart?

Danbri,

I have to run, so I cannot really dig into details, but I am happy to 
look at it tomorrow. However....

- can you give me some more detailed turtle code of what else you would 
like to have?
- I used the latest spec version which is not yet documented and I am 
not sure Ben's code implements it fully. I have an implementation 
running on my machine, that is what I used...

Ivan

Dan Brickley wrote:
> Ivan Herman wrote:
>> I made a run at it; it is actually pretty close to Niklas' second 
>> version.
> 
> Thanks Ivan, Niklas, Karl, ...
> 
> We're getting there!
> 
>> What I guess you wanted to achieve was:
>>
>> _:a a foaf:Person;
>>     foaf:name "Dan Brickley".
>> <#area> ex:depicts _:a.
>> <http://danbri.org> foaf:primaryTopic :_a.
> 
> Yup, but I was hoping also to get the details of the area and the image 
> URL into triples too, so a SPARQL store can be a self-contained 
> photographic addressbook / clipart db.
> 
> I put your example into http://danbri.org/2008/imagemap/ivan.html and 
> ran the latest GetN3 .js bookmarklet on it. Results:
> 
> _:n0 <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> 
> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
> _:n0 <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "Dan Brickley"@en .
> 
> <http://danbri.org/2008/imagemap/ivan.html#area1> 
> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/depicts> _:n0 .
> 
> 
> hmm it's not getting the primaryTopic. Maybe the .js is out of date?
> 
> Some candidate goals:
> 
> * look as much like current HTML as possible
> * work with multiple tagged areas
> * allow enough info to be exposed via triples to reconstruct the shapes 
> over the mapped image from the RDF
> 
>> According to the latest status of the group's discussions (not the 
>> syntax document as published, though), the following encoding does the 
>> trick:
>>
>> <div instanceof="foaf:Person"
>>   property="foaf:name" content="Dan Brickley">
>>   <map name="da8bb51_b" id="da8bb51_b">
>>     <area id="area1"
>>       shape="POLY" coords="463,662,..."
>>       rev="foaf:primaryTopic" href="http://danbri.org/"/>
>>   </map>
>>   <span rev="foaf:depicts" resource="#area1"/>
>>   <img src="2169955372_503da8bb51_b.jpg"
>>      width="1024" height="770" usemap="#da8bb51_b"/>
>> </div>
>>
>> The reason why a separate <span> is necessary is because for many use 
>> cases the special interpretation of @src is necessary, and does get a 
>> special usage in RDFa (essentially, it behaves like an @about). That is 
> 
> So we can get triples that use the URI from src somehow?
> 
>> why the @rev and @resource pair could not be put on the <img> element. 
>> If, instead of <img> you had used something like <object>, for 
>> example, then you could also have
>>
>> <div instanceof="foaf:Person"
>>   property="foaf:name" content="Dan Brickley">
>>   <map name="da8bb51_b" id="da8bb51_b">
>>     <area id="area1"
>>       shape="POLY" coords="463,662,..."
>>       rev="foaf:primaryTopic" href="http://danbri.org/"/>
>>   </map>
>>   <object data="2169955372_503da8bb51_b.jpg"
>>      width="1024" height="770" usemap="#da8bb51_b"
>>      rev="foaf:depicts" resource="#area1"
>>   />
>> </div>
>>
>> which is, actually, quite nice!
> 
> Is it legit to use <object>? do browsers understand it appropriately in 
> this context?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Dan

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