- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:47:44 +0200
- To: "Hausenblas, Michael" <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- CC: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDFa mailing list <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <47146CA0.1060409@w3.org>
Hausenblas, Michael wrote:
> Ah. Sounds we have a volunteer, here ;)
>
:-) I fly to Madrid tomorrow, US next week:-(
> So, to coordinate these efforts, may I propose
> to raise this issue at our upcoming RDFa TC
> (Manu will be there anyway, right? Ivan might
> want to chime in?)
>
Not sure.
> I am personally also in favour of using an online
> service as sparql.org ...
>
> However, a command-line version (IIUC that is what
> Manu offers) would be great to have ...
>
All what I said can be incorporated into a command line script.
Actually, that _is_ probably the best way to go...
Ivan
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
> Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
> JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>
> http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org
>> [mailto:public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Herman
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:37 AM
>> To: Manu Sporny
>> Cc: RDFa mailing list
>> Subject: Re: pyRDFa Test Suite Reviewer
>>
>> Manu,
>>
>> I was thinking of something similar, although my strategy was meant to
>> be a bit different
>>
>> - I would do the RDFa->RDF conversion using an online service. I guess
>> it would be possible to send a URI to either Fabien's service or pyRdfa
>> (well, I know about the latter) or others. In other words, a proper URI
>> for a test result could be minted. For example,
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.or
> g/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0012.xhtml
>> is a URI for test #12 with pyRdfa.
>>
>> - I would create a full SPARQL query using that URI in a 'FROM'
>>
>> - submit the SPARQL query to an online SPARQL site, like sparqler
>>
>> http://www.sparql.org/
>>
>> (I have created a SPARQL library to make such submission easier:
>>
>> http://ivanherman.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/sparql-endpoint-inte
> rface-to-python/
>> that could come handy here. But there are others.)
>>
>> This would have, in my view, several advantages:
>>
>> - the test would be done on the latest versions. At least for pyRdfa I
>> know for a fact that the version running on the web is ahead of the
>> tar.gz distribution
>>
>> - the same test could be done on different implementations
>> easily with a
>> minor change in the target URI
>>
>> - the test would rely on an external and, possibly, more
>> reliable sparql
>> service.
>>
>> As an example, you can send to sparqler the following query:
>>
>> ASK
>> FROM
>> <http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.o
> rg/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0012.xhtml>
>> WHERE {
>> <http://example.org/node> <http://example.org/property>
>> "chat"@fr .
>> }
>>
>> to test pyRdfa and test #12.
>>
>> Actually... I picked on #12 because it is also an example where the
>> python SPARQL goes wrong. Indeed, the sparqler result above is 'True'.
>> However, you test lists it as failing. For reference, here is
>> the result
>> in Turtle generated by PyRDFa:
>>
>> [[[
>> @prefix ex: <http://example.org/>.
>>
>> ex:node ex:property "chat"@fr.
>> ]]]
>>
>> Which _is_ correct with the test above:-)
>>
>> We will have something nice here.
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>> Manu Sporny wrote:
>>> I have had a very hard time reading each RDFa test suite XHTML file,
>>> SPARQL file and attempting to determine what triples should
>> be generated
>>> from the given XHTML. We might expect beginning RDFa implementers to
>>> have the same problem. The test suite is not only good for
>> validation,
>>> but for understanding how RDFa works.
>>>
>>> With the previous problems/thoughts in mind, I hacked
>> together a quick
>>> and dirty test suite reviewer. The reviewer is attached,
>> along with two
>>> examples of the output of the tool. It builds upon Ivan
>> Herman's work on
>>> pyRDFa and Ed Summer's modifications to the tool.
>>>
>>> The new tool, tsreview.py, will do the following:
>>> - Retrieve all approved or unreviewed RDFa test cases
>>> - Execute the SPARQL queries on the generated graph
>>> - Dump the graph, in N3 format, to a file.
>>> - Dump the raw XHTML and raw SPARQL to a file.
>>> - Generate a test report, containing all the information necessary
>>> (XHTML, N3, and SPARQL), to understand whether the test case is
>>> behaving or not.
>>>
>>> All of the current N3 and review files are included in the attached
>>> .tar.bz2, in a directory called "review".
>>>
>>> Two of the files that are generated, as a part of each test, are
>>> important to implementers.
>>>
>>> 1. The review file very clearly shows the input, the output
>> in N3, and
>>> the SPARQL validation code. This will help developers understand
>>> what is supposed to happen in their parsers.
>>> 2. The graph N3 serialization is provided. This ensures that
>> developers
>>> won't have to write a SPARQL engine to test whether or not their
>>> parser is compliant.
>>>
>>> Could we include the auto-generated N3 serialization as part
>> of the RDFa
>>> test suite (for documentation purposes)?
>>>
>>> Could we include the review files (or something similar) as
>> part of the
>>> RDFa test suite (again, for documentation purposes)?
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Command line output from the tsreview.py tool:
>>>
>>> test-01-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-06-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-07-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-08-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-09-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-10-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-11-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-12-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-13-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-14-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-15-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-18-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-19-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-20-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-21-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-23-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-25-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-26-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-27-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-29-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-30-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-31-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-32-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-33-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-34-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-35-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-36-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-37-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-38-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-41-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-46-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-47-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-48-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-49-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-50-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-51-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>>> test-52-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-53-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-54-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-55-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>>> test-56-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ERROR
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------
>>>
>>> XHTML
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
>> "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
>>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>>> xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#">
>>> <head>
>>> <title>Test 0008</title>
>>> </head>
>>> <body>
>>> <p>This document is licensed under a
>>> <a about="" rel="cc:license"
>>>
>> href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/">
>>> Creative Commons
>>> </a>.
>>> </p>
>>> </body>
>>> </html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Triples (N3 format)
>>>
>>>
>>> @prefix _5:
>> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0008.>.
>>> @prefix cc: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#>.
>>>
>>> _5:xhtml cc:license
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SPARQL (PASSED)
>>>
>>> ASK WHERE {
>>>
>> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/
> 0008.xhtml> <http://creativecommons.org/ns#license>
>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/> .
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------
>>>
>>> XHTML
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
>> "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
>>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>>> xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"
>>> >
>>> <head>
>>> <title>Test 0048</title>
>>> </head>
>>> <body>
>>> <div about="http://www.example.org" rel="foaf:knows"
>> instanceof="foaf:Person">
>>> <p property="foaf:name">John Doe</p>
>>> </div>
>>> </body>
>>> </html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Triples (N3 format)
>>>
>>>
>>> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>.
>>> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>.
>>>
>>> <http://www.example.org> a foaf:Person;
>>> foaf:knows [ foaf:name "John Doe"].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SPARQL (FAILED)
>>>
>>> ASK WHERE {
>>> <http://www.example.org> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> _:a .
>>> _:a <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "John Doe" .
>>> <http://www.example.org>
>> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
>> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html
>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
>>
--
Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html
FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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