- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:44:30 +0200
- To: "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Manu Sporny" <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: "RDFa mailing list" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Ah. Sounds we have a volunteer, here ;)
So, to coordinate these efforts, may I propose
to raise this issue at our upcoming RDFa TC
(Manu will be there anyway, right? Ivan might
want to chime in?)
I am personally also in favour of using an online
service as sparql.org ...
However, a command-line version (IIUC that is what
Manu offers) would be great to have ...
Cheers,
Michael
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Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org
>[mailto:public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Herman
>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:37 AM
>To: Manu Sporny
>Cc: RDFa mailing list
>Subject: Re: pyRDFa Test Suite Reviewer
>
>Manu,
>
>I was thinking of something similar, although my strategy was meant to
>be a bit different
>
>- I would do the RDFa->RDF conversion using an online service. I guess
>it would be possible to send a URI to either Fabien's service or pyRdfa
>(well, I know about the latter) or others. In other words, a proper URI
>for a test result could be minted. For example,
>
>http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.or
g/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0012.xhtml
>
>is a URI for test #12 with pyRdfa.
>
>- I would create a full SPARQL query using that URI in a 'FROM'
>
>- submit the SPARQL query to an online SPARQL site, like sparqler
>
>http://www.sparql.org/
>
>(I have created a SPARQL library to make such submission easier:
>
>http://ivanherman.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/sparql-endpoint-inte
rface-to-python/
>
>that could come handy here. But there are others.)
>
>This would have, in my view, several advantages:
>
>- the test would be done on the latest versions. At least for pyRdfa I
>know for a fact that the version running on the web is ahead of the
>tar.gz distribution
>
>- the same test could be done on different implementations
>easily with a
>minor change in the target URI
>
>- the test would rely on an external and, possibly, more
>reliable sparql
>service.
>
>As an example, you can send to sparqler the following query:
>
>ASK
>FROM
><http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.o
rg/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0012.xhtml>
>WHERE {
> <http://example.org/node> <http://example.org/property>
>"chat"@fr .
>}
>
>to test pyRdfa and test #12.
>
>Actually... I picked on #12 because it is also an example where the
>python SPARQL goes wrong. Indeed, the sparqler result above is 'True'.
>However, you test lists it as failing. For reference, here is
>the result
>in Turtle generated by PyRDFa:
>
>[[[
>@prefix ex: <http://example.org/>.
>
> ex:node ex:property "chat"@fr.
>]]]
>
>Which _is_ correct with the test above:-)
>
>We will have something nice here.
>
>Ivan
>
>
>Manu Sporny wrote:
>> I have had a very hard time reading each RDFa test suite XHTML file,
>> SPARQL file and attempting to determine what triples should
>be generated
>> from the given XHTML. We might expect beginning RDFa implementers to
>> have the same problem. The test suite is not only good for
>validation,
>> but for understanding how RDFa works.
>>
>> With the previous problems/thoughts in mind, I hacked
>together a quick
>> and dirty test suite reviewer. The reviewer is attached,
>along with two
>> examples of the output of the tool. It builds upon Ivan
>Herman's work on
>> pyRDFa and Ed Summer's modifications to the tool.
>>
>> The new tool, tsreview.py, will do the following:
>> - Retrieve all approved or unreviewed RDFa test cases
>> - Execute the SPARQL queries on the generated graph
>> - Dump the graph, in N3 format, to a file.
>> - Dump the raw XHTML and raw SPARQL to a file.
>> - Generate a test report, containing all the information necessary
>> (XHTML, N3, and SPARQL), to understand whether the test case is
>> behaving or not.
>>
>> All of the current N3 and review files are included in the attached
>> .tar.bz2, in a directory called "review".
>>
>> Two of the files that are generated, as a part of each test, are
>> important to implementers.
>>
>> 1. The review file very clearly shows the input, the output
>in N3, and
>> the SPARQL validation code. This will help developers understand
>> what is supposed to happen in their parsers.
>> 2. The graph N3 serialization is provided. This ensures that
>developers
>> won't have to write a SPARQL engine to test whether or not their
>> parser is compliant.
>>
>> Could we include the auto-generated N3 serialization as part
>of the RDFa
>> test suite (for documentation purposes)?
>>
>> Could we include the review files (or something similar) as
>part of the
>> RDFa test suite (again, for documentation purposes)?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Command line output from the tsreview.py tool:
>>
>> test-01-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-06-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-07-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-08-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-09-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-10-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-11-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-12-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-13-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-14-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-15-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-18-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-19-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-20-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-21-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-23-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-25-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-26-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-27-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-29-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-30-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-31-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-32-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-33-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-34-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-35-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-36-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-37-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-38-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-41-approved (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-46-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-47-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-48-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-49-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-50-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-51-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... FAIL
>> test-52-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-53-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-54-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-55-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ok
>> test-56-unreviewed (__main__.XhtmlTests) ... ERROR
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>---------
>>
>>
>> XHTML
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
>"http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>> xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#">
>> <head>
>> <title>Test 0008</title>
>> </head>
>> <body>
>> <p>This document is licensed under a
>> <a about="" rel="cc:license"
>>
>href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/">
>> Creative Commons
>> </a>.
>> </p>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Triples (N3 format)
>>
>>
>> @prefix _5:
><http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0008.>.
>> @prefix cc: <http://creativecommons.org/ns#>.
>>
>> _5:xhtml cc:license
><http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/>.
>>
>>
>>
>> SPARQL (PASSED)
>>
>> ASK WHERE {
>>
><http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/
0008.xhtml> <http://creativecommons.org/ns#license>
><http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/> .
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>---------
>>
>>
>> XHTML
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
>"http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>> xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"
>> >
>> <head>
>> <title>Test 0048</title>
>> </head>
>> <body>
>> <div about="http://www.example.org" rel="foaf:knows"
>instanceof="foaf:Person">
>> <p property="foaf:name">John Doe</p>
>> </div>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Triples (N3 format)
>>
>>
>> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>.
>> @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>.
>>
>> <http://www.example.org> a foaf:Person;
>> foaf:knows [ foaf:name "John Doe"].
>>
>>
>>
>> SPARQL (FAILED)
>>
>> ASK WHERE {
>> <http://www.example.org> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/knows> _:a .
>> _:a <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "John Doe" .
>> <http://www.example.org>
><http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
><http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
>> }
>>
>>
>
>--
>
>Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
>Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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>
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