- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:15:46 -0500
- To: SPARQL WG <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
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Just a comforting follow-up on the concern on today's call about David Wood's LDP email. An hour later he answers that he's okay with the status quo -- GSP proceeding on its own, separate from LDP. -- Sandro -------- Original Message -------- Return-path: <public-ldp-wg-request@listhub.w3.org> Envelope-to: sandro@jay.w3.org Delivery-date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:31:35 -0500 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([128.30.52.39]) by jay.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <public-ldp-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1TiSk1-0000Ux-8w; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:31:33 -0500 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <public-ldp-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1TiSk0-0006ux-LK; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:31:33 +0000 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <public-ldp-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1TiSjr-0006BN-RB for public-ldp-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:31:23 +0000 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:31:23 +0000 Resent-Message-Id: <E1TiSjr-0006BN-RB@frink.w3.org> Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <david@3roundstones.com>) id 1TiSjq-0006AY-QV for public-ldp-wg@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:31:22 +0000 Received: from smtp178.iad.emailsrvr.com ([207.97.245.178]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <david@3roundstones.com>) id 1TiSjn-0006ky-Kt for public-ldp-wg@w3.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:31:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp37.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCE563B06AD; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp37.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: david-AT-3roundstones.com) with ESMTPSA id 9589C3B039E; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:52 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_378C6F27-1B75-44FD-86F7-8833CA3BCE29"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com> In-Reply-To: <OF8B3755FE.6A664EFA-ON88257AD1.005495D2-88257AD1.005540AD@us.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:52 -0500 Cc: public-ldp-wg@w3.org Message-Id: <513A9F5E-D9AA-4AC1-B74B-3FFA1ACE1985@3roundstones.com> References: <OF758DF57C.4A821A57-ON88257AD0.007588A9-88257AD0.00774E41@us.ibm.com> <AB0FF5A5-B777-4A2F-853D-D458A208B719@3roundstones.com> <OF8B3755FE.6A664EFA-ON88257AD1.005495D2-88257AD1.005540AD@us.ibm.com> To: Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Received-SPF: none client-ip=207.97.245.178; envelope-from=david@3roundstones.com; helo=smtp178.iad.emailsrvr.com X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-2.899, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1TiSjn-0006ky-Kt b058ae2571f48c3c3019758f7a1e5ff1 X-Original-To: public-ldp-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: Closing ISSUE-5: Add a section explaining how LDBP is related to Graph Store Protocol Archived-At: <http://www.w3.org/mid/513A9F5E-D9AA-4AC1-B74B-3FFA1ACE1985@3roundstones.com> Resent-From: public-ldp-wg@w3.org X-Mailing-List: <public-ldp-wg@w3.org> archive/latest/1006 X-Loop: public-ldp-wg@w3.org Resent-Sender: public-ldp-wg-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: <public-ldp-wg.w3.org> List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/> List-Post: <mailto:public-ldp-wg@w3.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:public-ldp-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe> Hi Arnaud, Nope, I'm just busy and not up to speed! Sorry, the status quo satisfies me. Regards, Dave -- http://about.me/david_wood On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:31, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com <mailto:lehors@us.ibm.com>> wrote: > Hi David, > Did you see what we said about this on our WG page? > > http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Linked_Data_Platform_.28LDP.29_vs_SPARQL_Graph_Store_HTTP_Protocol_.28GSP.29 > > > I take it that the status quo doesn't satisfy you. > -- > Arnaud Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group > > > David Wood <david@3roundstones.com <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>> > wrote on 12/11/2012 07:07:13 AM: > > > From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com > <mailto:david@3roundstones.com>> > > To: Arnaud Le Hors/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS, > > Cc: public-ldp-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-ldp-wg@w3.org> > > Date: 12/11/2012 07:13 AM > > Subject: Re: Closing ISSUE-5: Add a section explaining how LDBP is > > related to Graph Store Protocol > > > > Hi all, > > > > The SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol [1] is in CR, but also its > > status notes that it "may be superseded". I'm not sure what that > > means. Its introduction says: > > [[ > > This document describes the use of HTTP operations for the purpose > > of managing a collection of RDF graphs. This interface is an > > alternative to the SPARQL 1.1 Update protocol. Most of the > > operations defined here can be performed using that interface, but > > for some clients or servers, this interface may be easier to > > implement or work with. This specification may serve as a non- > > normative suggestion for HTTP operations on RDF graphs which are > > managed outside of a SPARQL 1.1 graph store. > > ]] > > …which certainly sounds like an overlap with LDP to me and thus > > ISSUE-5 makes sense. We should feel an obligation to align W3C > > Recommendations. > > > > I propose that the LDP WG formally ask Chimezie Ogbuji (the editor) > > and the SPARQL WG to consider folding the requirements for the > > SPARQL 1.1 HTTP Graph Store Protocol specification into the LDP > > specification, and to withdraw the CR. This would have the benefits > > of aligning the specification family, reducing duplication and > > satisfying a greater number of use cases. > > > > Regards, > > Dave > > -- > > http://about.me/david_wood > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 2012, at 16:43, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com > <mailto:lehors@us.ibm.com>> wrote: > > > > As I was looking closer to the list of open issues I realized that > > this one [1] actually ought to be simply close as is. > > > > Unfortunately at the beginning I failed to make sure that our > > minutes clearly reflected the resolutions we made and looking at our > > archives I can't quite reconstruct the exact history here. > > > > The issue change log reads: "decided at the telcon 9/24/2012: keep > > it on record (OPEN) for now, before we decide what to do." even > > though the minutes from that day [2] don't clearly support that. > > > > At the same time, the week before we decided to address the > > relationship between LDP and GPS by adding a paragraph to the LDP > WGpage [3]. > > > > So, I don't see why we would still want to keep this issue open. As > > a consequence I'm putting this one up for review. > > If anyone has any lights to shed on this or wants to object please > > let me know. > > Thanks. > > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/5 > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-09-24 > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/ > > 2012-09-17#sparql_graph_store_protocol__2c__overview_by_steve_speicher > > -- > > Arnaud Le Hors - Software Standards Architect - IBM Software Group
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