- From: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:10:59 -0500
- To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@talis.com>
- CC: RDF Data Access Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Andy Seaborne wrote:
>
>
> On 13/11/2009 04:53, Lee Feigenbaum wrote:
>>> > ** ISSUE-39: Variable scope of alias variables
>>> >
>>> > Consensus that variables on the right-hand side of "AS" (alias
>>> variables) are not in scope for the rest of the query (including
>>> projected expressions), but not including outer queries of course.
>>>
>>> Disagree - this is an unnecessary restriction and results in needing
>>> addition nesting of SELECTs just to reuse an expression.
>>
>> What's an example of this? Does this only apply when an expression has
>> side-effects or does not evaluate the same when invoked twice?
>
> See the discussion around Holger's example - he uses the result of one
> expression in another
>
> In the SELECT case where the aggregate is in SELECT clause:
>
> SELECT (count(*) AS ?C) , (?Num/?C)
>
> It should also ways be possible to replace ?C by the expression used
> originally but as the expression becomes more complicated it becomes a
> nuisence.
>
> Nesting SELECTs has the effect:
>
> SELECT (?Num/?C)
> SELECT (count(*) AS ?C)
>
> so we can define the scope in the same way - left-to-right across the
> list of expressions - but it makes the feature non-critical.
>
>> This was driven in part, I believe, by what existing implementations did
>> that were discussed at the F2F.
>
> ARQ does it
>
> 'SELECT (1 as ?A) (?A+2 AS ?B) {}'
>
> ---------
> | A | B |
> =========
> | 1 | 3 |
> ---------
>
> It didn't occur to me to not allow it but maybe that's the way the
> implementation works. There's a step which does one AS so multiple ones
> are just a sequence of these.
>
>> In an alternate design, what is the scope of alias variables? Where
>> can/can't they be used?
>
> A variable's scope across the select expression begins after the AS that
> mentions it.
>
> SELECT (?A+1 as ?A) {}
>
> The ?A in ?A+1 is out-of-scope.
How does it work if the alias variable is used in the query pattern?
Lee
> Andy
>
>>
>> Lee
>>
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