- From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:18:01 +0100
- To: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
- Cc: public-rdf-comments@w3.org
Hi Antoine, On 10 Aug 2012, at 17:08, Antoine Zimmermann wrote: > The current Editor's draft of RDF Concept (as of 5th June 2012 [1]) defines a language-tagged string as literal [2]. By the definition of literal above, this means that a language-tagged string consists of: > - a lexical form being a UNICODE string; > - a datatype IRI. > > But it immediately contradicts this by saying that, in addition to lexical form and datatype IRI, it also has a non-empty language tag. It doesn't contradict itself. You have just stopped reading halfway through the definition of "literal". The form of the statement is: "An X consists of A, B, and, if and only if B=123, C." You only read: "An X consists of A, B", and then claimed that the rest is contradictory. Now it could be rephrased to: "An X is either an X1 or an X2. An X1 consists of A and B; and B must not be equal to 123. An X2 consists of A, B, and C; and B must be equal to 123." This would be as precise as can be, but would be unnecessarily verbose and complicated, for a net loss in clarity. I don't see the point. > Literal equality indicates that the definition of literals should rather be: > > A literal in an RDF graph consists of: > - a lexical form, > - a datatype IRI, > - and an optional language tag. No, because this definition omits the essential fact that a language tag is present if and only if the datatype IRI is rdf:langString. > It would also be possible to simply include the language tag inside the lexical form like this: > > A literal in an RDF graph consists of: > - a lexical form being a UNICODE string or a pair <UNICODE-string,BCP47-tag>, > - a datatype IRI. > > where only the literals with type rdf:langString can have a language tag. Incorrect, because rdf:langString *must* have a language tag. And lacks a definition of "language-tagged string". Can you come up with better wording that is correct, complete, and concise? Best, Richard > Then equality would be defined like this: > > Literal equality: Two literals are equal if and only if the two lexical forms (including possibly the language tag) and the two datatype IRIs compare equal, character by character. > > > [1] RDF 1.1 Concepts and Abstract Syntax - W3C Editor's Draft 05 June 2012. http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html > [2] 3.3 Literals, in [1]. http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-concepts/index.html#section-Graph-Literal > -- > Antoine Zimmermann > ISCOD / LSTI - Institut Henri Fayol > École Nationale Supérieure des Mines de Saint-Étienne > 158 cours Fauriel > 42023 Saint-Étienne Cedex 2 > France > Tél:+33(0)4 77 42 66 03 > Fax:+33(0)4 77 42 66 66 > http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/ >
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