Re: Role of the Ontology and Expressivity - to discuss on telcon

I don't see conflation of concepts/terms.   What I have been hearing,  
and trying to influence,
is that each individual has a  definition of a term and when they  
speak they assume the people
listening agree with their definition.

I hope the irony of this on a set of people, (us),  committed to the  
developing the semantic web is not lost.

Regrets for today.  I have an end of semester fire to attend to.

Dan


On May 4, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:

> I really wish some of the responses of the last 16 hours
> could have come sooner.
>
> I cannot write the cogent responses I wish to, in the time
> remaining before the concall, and I fear oral arguments will
> continue to be less coherent than written.
>
> I sense a great deal of conflation happening in people's minds
> and in their arguments.
>
> I see conflation between "database", the engine, and "database",
> the schema + data contained therein.
>
> I see conflation of schema-to-ontology mapping and instance data
> transformation/replication.
>
> I see conflation of instance data transformation/replication and
> reasoning/inference over that instance data.
>
> I see conflation of schema-to-ontology mapping and reasoning/
> inference over the schema and/or ontology/ies.
>
> I also see responses to particular points of my previous post,
> which don't take the context of those points into account, and
> so while the responses seem reasonable out of context, they
> really don't address the points I was trying to make.
>
>
> What I am arguing for, more than anything else, is flexibility
> for the end user of the tools which will implement the standard(s)
> we are working on.
>
> What I am arguing for is breaking all of the above conflations
> into their component parts -- because that break-up leads to
> the flexibility which I believe is necessary to long-term
> success of this effort -- and codifying the conflations has
> a strong likelihood to radically lower the utility of RDB data
> exposed as RDF, which effect is in no-one's interest.
>
> Not that anyone will see this in the next five minutes, but I'll
> send this anyway....
>
> Ted