Re: AW: RAX Position Paper

Dear Christian and all,

I made a few more small edits in the latex file and adde the
acknowledgement section. The main missing bit is what Jose said:

"About the contents...we should probably add some content because at this
moment it is quite general...the problem that I can see is that if we start
adding approaches or technologies, then the paper would automatically grow
in size...while if we try to keep it simple and just add a few, then it
would be unfair for the technologies that we don't mention.."

We still have space for about two paragaphs to takle this issue, but I have
no good solution how to address this.

Best,

Felix




2017-07-19 10:46 GMT+02:00 Dirschl, Christian <
Christian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com>:

> Hi Felix and Jose Labra,
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your contributions.
>
>
>
> It is obvious that this paper is a group effort. So I would add a section
> “Acknowledgments” with a reference to the group and a link to its members.
>
> As authors, I would only mention those who have written text in the paper
> itself.
>
>
>
> With respect to technology and tools etc. I would mention these things
> where it directly supports the narrative of the paper and make link in a
> footnote for further details. So really just mentioning, e.g. when we say
> that we have already tried something out or we list different approaches
> etc.
>
>
>
> I will work further on the paper tomorrow, once your contributions are
> final.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> *Von:* Felix Sasaki [mailto:felix@sasakiatcf.com]
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2017 06:27
> *An:* Jose Emilio Labra Gayo <jelabra@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com>; Dirschl, Christian <
> Christian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com>; Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>;
> Lange-Bever, Christoph <Christoph.Lange-Bever@iais.fraunhofer.de>; Axel
> Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>; public-rax@w3.org
>
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: RAX Position Paper
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>
>
> Dear Jose, all,
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>
>
>
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> 2017-07-18 22:24 GMT+02:00 Jose Emilio Labra Gayo <jelabra@gmail.com>:
>
> I started to convert the contents in the Google doc to LaTeX.
>
> I used Overleaf as it can be collaboratively edited.
>
> The following link to current draft is here, and I think that if you have
> that link you can edit it:
>
> https://www.overleaf.com/10362311mfbjhrvrgjmb
>
> There is also a git repository in case you prefer to edit it offline.
>
> https://git.overleaf.com/10362311mfbjhrvrgjmb
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>
>
> If you prefer to continue editing in the Google Doc, I would ask you to
> mark the new content so I can change it easily in the Latex...of course, if
> you can use LaTeX, it would be easier.
>
>
>
> I will use Latex for further edits. I will do editing tonight.
>
>
>
>
>
> I have doubts with the list of authors and institutions...I added 4
> authors as a test...(please forgive me the other members of the group that
> I didn't add...). I really don't know what is the best way to proceed about
> authorship here.
>
>
>
>
>
> Christian, what is your view as a co-chair of the group no this?
>
>
>
>
>
> About the contents...we should probably add some content because at this
> moment it is quite general...the problem that I can see is that if we start
> adding approaches or technologies, then the paper would automatically grow
> in size...while if we try to keep it simple and just add a few, then it
> would be unfair for the technologies that we don't mention...
>
>
>
>
>
> Indeed. What do others think on this?
>
>
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Felix
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a travel tomorrow and will probably not be able to work more on
> this. On thursday morning I could probably work a little bit more.
>
> Best regards, Jose Labra
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I started to extend the google docs based on what this available.
> Christian, all, would that may be sufficient as a first draft? Please feel
> free to edit my text as you like, nothing is set in stone.
>
>
>
> Who would do the actual submission?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Felix
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-07-17 10:58 GMT+02:00 Dirschl, Christian <Christian.Dirschl@
> wolterskluwer.com>:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Thanks Jose Labra for this preparation and for your availability to
> transform the final version in the right format.
>
>
>
> I just made a first try on certain parts of the document.
>
> Please have a look asap and note your name behind the sections you want to
> work on more detail.
>
> Is it possible to have a first draft in place by tomorrow EOB?
>
>
>
> Thanks and best
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> *Von:* Jose Emilio Labra Gayo [mailto:jelabra@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 14. Juli 2017 11:36
> *An:* Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch>
> *Cc:* Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com>; Dirschl, Christian <
> Christian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com>; Lange-Bever, Christoph <
> Christoph.Lange-Bever@iais.fraunhofer.de>; Axel Polleres <
> axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>; public-rax@w3.org
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: RAX Position Paper
>
>
>
> I created a possible google doc with the proposed contents:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KAUawomGOeADfvL2CjaL2g3uqvOKu
> A9z-D43xTRpKnc/edit?usp=sharing
>
> If you want fill it with the contents, I can convert that to a LaTeX file
> following the conference format.
>
> Best regards, Jose Labra
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Evain, Jean-Pierre <evain@ebu.ch> wrote:
>
> +1 about a google doc
>
> I will be at the conference in Amsterdam.
>
> Jean-Pierre
> ________________________________
> From: Jose Emilio Labra Gayo [jelabra@gmail.com]
> Sent: 14 July 2017 10:57
> To: Felix Sasaki
> Cc: Dirschl, Christian; Lange-Bever, Christoph; Axel Polleres;
> public-rax@w3.org
> Subject: Re: AW: RAX Position Paper
>
>
> I didn't reply first because I have an academic role working for the
> University of Oviedo.
>
> Anyway, I could also help if you want. Should we start preparing a
> collaborative place where we could edit the document? Something like
> Overleaf or ShareLaTeX, or just Google Doc?
>
> Best regards, Jose Labra
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com
> <mailto:felix@sasakiatcf.com>> wrote:
> Hello Christian and Christopher,
>
> I am happy to contribute as well. Someone has to provide a first draft and
> others fill in. Who would like to make a start? The structure from Christian
>
> Thesis (the one above)
> Motivation (problem statements)
> State of the Art
> Approaches and outlook
>
> is fine by me.
>
> - Felix
>
>
> 2017-07-13 10:27 GMT+02:00 Dirschl, Christian <Christian.Dirschl@
> wolterskluwer.com<mailto:Christian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com>>:
> Dear Christoph,
>
> I am available to contribute my share.
> If we are a team of 3, I think we could make it.
> How do we split the effort. Can we use the structure I developed?
>
> Please advise.
>
> Best
> Christian
>
> Von: Lange-Bever, Christoph [mailto:Christoph.Lange-Bever@
> iais.fraunhofer.de<mailto:Christoph.Lange-Bever@iais.fraunhofer.de>]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2017 09:20
> An: Felix Sasaki <felix@sasakiatcf.com<mailto:felix@sasakiatcf.com>>;
> Axel Polleres <axel.polleres@wu.ac.at<mailto:axel.polleres@wu.ac.at>>;
> Dirschl, Christian <Christian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com<mailto:Chris
> tian.Dirschl@wolterskluwer.com>>
> Cc: public-rax@w3.org<mailto:public-rax@w3.org>
> Betreff: RE: AW: RAX Position Paper
>
> Dear Christian, dear all,
>
> well, maybe there are resources to get the two-pager done by 20th. Felix
> would be available, I would as well (from tomorrow afternoon), if you were
> available you would even be able to represent one sector of industry. How
> much substantial details from industry do we expect on 2 pages anyway?
> Shouldn't we just draft something and ask our busy industry colleagues for
> some last minute input?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christoph
>
> --
> Christoph Lange(-Bever)
> Fraunhofer IAIS
> http://langec.wordpress.com/about
> Sent from a mobile device; please excuse my brevity.
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> --
> -- Jose Labra
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