- From: Andre Cusson <ac@hyperbase.com>
- Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:33:03 -0400
- To: public-qt-comments@w3.org
- Message-id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050703164703.01e91898@pop.hyperbase.com>
Hi, There has been recent issues and discussions about the support of "assign" and associated functionality, ex: - the "Template recursion, StackOverflowError, saxon:while and variable assignability" message track on saxon-help@lists.sourceforge.net, continued on - the "<https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3212142>Eliminating saxon:assign" message track of the source-forge Saxon OpenDiscussion forum at https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1305798&forum_id=94026). Assign is currently an extension supported by some implementations (ex: Saxon). Recently some have been proposing to drop assign from XSLT as there should be other (more standard) ways to achieve equivalent results. We have been looking at this for little while and would like to propose not only that assign could be supported as an extension but that assign should be an integral part of the XSLT standard for the simple reason that important and fundamental processing patterns can not be efficiently expressed in XSLT, without assign. These assign dependent processing patterns map-out to many essential and often non-trivial use-cases, and include: - support of (user) global variables in scripting languages written in XSLT (like the XML-based layout scripting language of our publishing engine) - efficient run-time traversal and processing of large networks while avoiding loops (like traveling salesman trying to mark paths that he has already visited, as he traverses the graph) - efficiently record and monitor global processes (like avoiding the XSLT2.0 "Cannot write more than one result document to the same URI" error (and avoiding duplicates/overwrites) when re-generating (ie. updating), from its XML sources, a web site, whose pages are already referred to by other sites and bookmarks, and where, while traversing the tree of source XML documents, at every page node, before generating the page, the transform needs to check if that URL has already been used, add it to the list of done pages if it has not or report (ex: trace) the duplication. For real-world examples, we have an XSLT application currently on-line, with about 25K lines of XSLT 2.0 and about 400 global variables of which 17 are assignable variables that specifically fit patterns for which no other equivalent algorithm could be found to replace the ones using assign, confirming (still, so far), the requirements for Assign. In fact, assign is so important, that it has to be part of the standard (like regex, number formatting, escaping, html serialization, keys, etc.) to allow non-trivial applications to be conformant and portable. In no way are we advocating that assign should be used in cases other than those for which there is no reasonable alternative. Of course, the name "assign" is not really important, but it is the occasional mutability offered by the associated functionality that is key and unique. Do not hesitate to contact us for more information. Thank you for your consideration. Andre Cusson T: (1) 514 583 0601 01 COMMUNICATIONS
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