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IBM-DM-012: Problems with element node, string-value accessor

From: XML Query <xmlquery@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:07:54 -0800
To: public-qt-comments@w3.org
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Data Model Section 6.2.2 (Element Nodes--Accessors): The dm:string-value 
accessor does not seem to be defined in terms of the properties of an 
element node. This problem has many manifestations. For example, 

(a) "If the element type is xs:string, or a type derived from xs:string, 
returns that string."  Eh?  Returns what string? Does it mean that the 
value returned is the content property of the child text node? 

(b) "If the element type is xs:anyURI, returns the characters of the URI." 
 What URI? Again, are we talking about the content of the child text node?

(c) "If the element type is xs:QName": this bullet has many problems. It 
discusses a "value" but does not specify where the value is found. It 
discusses the case when "in-scope namespaces map the default namespace to 
any namespace URI". Does this mean that the default namespace is a 
specific (rather than "any") URI? It refers to an error, "default 
namespace is defined". But this error needs a better 
description--certainly it is not an error simply to define a default 
namespace. Also, the list of subcases seems to be incomplete. The first 
bullet deals with the case when the "value" has no namespace URI and the 
default namespace satisfies some (poorly specified) condition; but what 
about the case when the the "value" has no namespace URI and the default 
namespace does not satisfy this condition?

(d) "If the element type is xs:dateTime, . . .": This paragraph requires 
the "original lexical representation" to be returned by the string-value 
accessor. But I believe there is no such requirement--isn't it possible 
that the original lexical representation might have been normalized into 
some different but equivalent representation? In general we do not attempt 
to preserve "original" lexical representations. Also, presumably this 
section applies to subtypes of the date/time types as well as the 
date/time types themselves. Also, this section describes how to compute a 
string-value from a "normalized value" and an "explicit timezone", but 
these things are not among the listed properties of an element node.

(e) "In all other cases, returns the concatenation of the string-values of 
all its text node descendants in document order." Finally, something that 
is actually found in the data model! Unfortunately, this sub-bullet is 
under the higher-level bullet where the "element has a simple type or a 
complex type with simple content." But in these cases, the element node 
has only a single text-node child, so why are we talking about 

(f) If the element has a simple type or a complex type with simple 
content, why doesn't the string-value accessor simply return exactly the 
content of the child text node? If the child text node doesn't contain the 
string-value in these cases, then what does it contain?
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