Re: CEPC and formal legal options

Hi chaals,

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:32:09 +0100, <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:

> Hi Coralie,
>
> 26.11.2014, 19:55, "Coralie Mercier" <coralie@w3.org>:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:12:11 +0100, <chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>>>  in the Procedures, the first sentence points out that the CEPC does  
>>> not
>>>  override normal legal mechanisms. It would be a good idea to place the
>>>  same notice somewhere near the very beginning of the CEPC itself.
> ...
>> I looked at w3process issue-146
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/w3process/track/issues/146> and what
>> contributes to closing it is this (member-only) message:
>>    https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2014OctDec/0176.html
>>
>> ... which stresses out:
>>
>> [[ The [Procedures] document says "Ombuds will operate by procedures
>> appropriate to their sites and jurisdictions."  That sets a clear
>> expectation that we have the flexibility to align with local  
>> requirements
>> ]]
>>
>> With regard to your suggestion to place the same notice somewhere near  
>> the
>> very beginning of the CEPC [1], Daniel Dardailler and I are of the  
>> opinion
>> that it would not be appropriate nor necessary, given that the code of
>> conduct is a manifesto, and that it points to the procedures, a click  
>> away.
>
> Being a click away means being invisible to people who have just read  
> the manifesto - or e.g. printed it on the back of some material, and  
> like the privacy policy, terms and conditions, copyright rules, and  
> other stuff that people don't read as a rule.

My point remains that it should not be necessary in the manifesto to bring  
up the ombuds --a device pertaining to the resolution procedures.

> I think it is actually important to note that the Code *complements*  
> rather than replaces normal legal remedies, within the manifesto  
> document text.

However, this friendly amendment makes sense to me. I would not object.
The final wording matters; "this code complements normal legal remedies"  
or something similar would work for me. "this code complements rather than  
replaces normal legal remedies" might work for me as long as I understand  
the need for the additional phrase.

Thanks!

Coralie


> cheers
>
> Chaals


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