Re: ISO SC 34/JWG 7, new work item for digital publications?

I have not seen the agreement between W3C and JTC1,
but from what I have heard in SC34, PAS submissions
from W3C appear to be maintained by JTC1 directly rather
than SC34/JWG7.  Is this true?

Regards,
Makoto

2021年5月7日(金) 19:11 <kerscher@montana.com>:

> I agree, and I think to use the PAS process, the spec must be a
> recommendation. I do think it helps in adoption in some countries if it is
> an ISO spec. We might consider timing; if we believe EPUB 3.3 is going to
> make it to a rec, we can introduce the draft to ISO so that once it is a
> rec it will not take as long for it to be confirmed as an ISO standard.
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> Best
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> George
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> *From:* Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 7, 2021 2:25 AM
> *To:* Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>
> *Cc:* W3C Publishing Steering Committee <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>;
> W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>; MURATA <
> eb2mmrt@gmail.com>; W3C EPUB 3 Working Group <public-epub-wg@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: ISO SC 34/JWG 7, new work item for digital publications?
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> On 7 May 2021, at 10:15, Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>
> wrote:
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> Makoto is raising the good question; this is also what I felt seing the
> message from the ISO people, its meaning was more or less "Is JWG7 an empty
> shell"?
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> If we look at it pragmatically
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> - The work on the EPUB Accessibilty spec is done
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> - The work on LCP is done (ISO TS 23078-2)
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> - Web Publications is not a good candidate by lack of adoption
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> - and we can also argue that W3C Audiobooks has not seen a sufficient
> adoption so far to be a good candidate.
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> Therefore it seems to me that JWG7 is indeed an empty shell until EPUB 3.3
> is a W3C recommendation.
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> It indeed looks like it… and I am not sure whether and what we can do
> about it:-(
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> Ivan
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> Laurent
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> Le 7 mai 2021 à 09:40, MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> Ivan,
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> Do we want to keep JWG7 alive?  If we do not create
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> new work items for JWG7, it will be disbanded eventually.
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> EPUB 3.3 is not going to be a new work item for JWG7 in
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> the near future.
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> I would like to hear what people have to say.
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> Regards,
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> Makoto
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> 2021年5月7日(金) 15:49 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
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> Makoto,
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> yes, indeed, W3C can use the PAS procedure to publish, when the time
> comes, EPUB 3.3. The only thing I was saying that this was never really
> discussed so far and no decision has been taken It may be an issue that has
> to be picked up by the Steering Committee. We are well ahead of time here;
> after all, the REC version of EPUB 3.3 is still more than a year away…
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> Cheers
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> Ivan
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> On 6 May 2021, at 21:44, MURATA <eb2mmrt@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Unlike IDPF, W3C can use the PAS procedure for creating
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> an ISO/IEC standard, if my understanding is correct.  This
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> is a *big* change.  It has impacts on the maintenance process
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> as well.  We should carefully study what has been agreed
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> between W3C and ISO/IEC about the PAS procedure.
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> Regards,
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> Makoto
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> 2021年5月7日(金) 3:29 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
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> Laurent,
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> > I suppose EPUB 3.3 will be proposed as an ISO standard when it is
> finalized. Is it the case?
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> I don't think there is any decision or commitment on this.
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> Ivan
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> > By curiosity, is there any other *new* work item planned for ISO
> standardization?
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> > Best regards
> > Laurent
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