Re: Thoughts on rechartering and the future of publications on the web

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 09:45, AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr <mailto:LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>> wrote:
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>>    "offline" has been a valid use case for the web for years.  I don't see  that as an issue at all.
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> I think the issue is not "offlining" but "packaging" which is at the core of today's business model for distributing digital content from publishers.

I do not see an issue either. As Jeff said, there may be some members whom we will have to convince about this, but there is no fundamental issue I would see.

Ivan


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> Luc
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> On 20/11/2018 07:37, "[NAME]" <[ADDRESS]> wrote:
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>    On 11/20/2018 1:33 AM, Laurent Le Meur wrote:
>>>>> I would like to see EPUB stay where it is – in the CG.  ....
>>>>> The same is true for Audiobooks – it should also take place in a CG where it can grow and prosper.
>>>> I must disagree for audiobooks, at least partially. There are two aspects on audiobook distribution to the end-user: offline (using OCF-lite) and online: in the online case audiobooks are a specific case of Web Publications. The WG must work on it, and may better do it sooner than later.
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>>>> If the W3C does not accept offline use cases as decent use cases because useful for the publishing industry, we can develop OCF-lite outside of the W3C (or as a CG), with another body to host the specification (see OPDS or Readium LCP).
>> Jeff said:
>>> I would think that W3C could accept offline use cases.  What is the problem with them?
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>> When I read, from Leonard "Publishing@W3C is about bringing traditional publishing capabilities and affordances to the web for *everyone*", plus the many discussions in the WG about using only core OWP technologies for Web Publications, plus the pressure to use exclusively the Web Packaging Work in progress as a packaging mechanism etc. I suspect that any format which will be presented as a B2B interchange format + a download format for end users will face severe pushback from a part of the W3C membership, and maybe the TAG.
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>    "offline" has been a valid use case for the web for years.  I don't see 
>    that as an issue at all.
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>    I'm not disputing that there could be some pushback for some issues.  
>    Best way to find out is to ask!  I'm just pushing back (e.g. offline) 
>    where there just seems to be some fear of the unknown.
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>> It may be just a matter of communication, but even in the Publishing WG, good communication is not always guaranteed.
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>> The issue is the same for OCF-lite and EPUPB 3.2 as a REC.
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