Re: [EPUB Roadmap] EPUB3 Justification call

Here’s one, Garth.  Largely lifted from the EPUB Test Suite 100.

Note that you will see a lot of warnings from EPUBCheck, such as:

WARNING(ACC-009): 
./Tiny-MathML.epub/OPS/xhtml/content-mathml-001.xhtml(61,14): MathML should
either have an 'alttext' attribute or 'annotation-xml' child element.

So the content needs to be updated.

Ric



From:  Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>
Date:  Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 11:40 AM
To:  <Julie.Blair@sagepub.com>
Cc:  Rachel Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>, AUDRAIN LUC
<LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>, W3C
Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
Subject:  Re: [EPUB Roadmap] EPUB3 Justification call
Resent-From:  <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
Resent-Date:  Wed, 15 Aug 2018 18:41:25 +0000

Hi Julie,

I'd be interested in a sample EPUB 3 with MathML to take a look at in our
ingest pipeline.

Best,
   Garth


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:54 AM Julie Blair <Julie.Blair@sagepub.com>
wrote:
> Hi Rachel,
>  
> I’m checking with Sales and will let you know.
>  
> Slightly off-topic, Google Play won’t accept any EPUB3 with MathML (even if we
> provide a fallback image). Unfortunately this makes us default to EPUB2 if a
> book contains Math. Has anyone else had this experience with them?
>  
> Thanks,
> Julie
>  
> From: Rachel Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 6:56 AM
> To: Julie Blair <Julie.Blair@sagepub.com>
> Cc: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>; MURATA Makoto
> <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>; W3C Publishing Business Group
> <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: [EPUB Roadmap] EPUB3 Justification call
>  
> 
> Thanks Julie! Do you know which distributors/reading systems you work with
> that do not yet accept EPUB3? It would be interesting in helping us develop a
> secondary target audience for this document.
> 
>  
> 
> R
> 
> 
> Rachel Comerford | Senior Director of Content Standards and Accessibility | T
> 212.576.9433 
> 
> Macmillan Learning
>  
> 
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Julie Blair <Julie.Blair@sagepub.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We do just this at SAGE Publishing. We create an EPUB3 then run a second
>> transformation to down-convert that package to EPUB2 for those
>> channels/vendors that won’t accept EPUB3 files.
>>  
>> -Julie Blair
>>  
>> 
>> From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 8:06 AM
>> To: MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
>> Cc: W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: [EPUB Roadmap] EPUB3 Justification call
>>  
>> 
>> I think it is a good idea but it has a cost.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Although difficult to know exactly, I do think almost all old EPUB2-only
>> devices support EPUB3 files, I mean those described in the document "EPUB2
>> Sunset".
>> 
>> At least, the tests we did in 2015 at Hachette Livre France, helped us decide
>> to switch the entire EPUB2 production to EPUB3. With no regrets…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Luc
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> De : MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
>> Date : vendredi 10 août 2018 à 11:53
>> À : AUDRAIN LUC AUDRAIN LUC <laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>
>> Cc : W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
>> Objet : Re: [EPUB Roadmap] EPUB3 Justification call
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Takami-san suggested downward translation from EPUB 3 to EPUB 2.
>> 
>> It allows publishers to adopt EPUB 3 while continuing to support
>> 
>> EPUB2-only devices.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Makoto
>>  
>> 
>> 2018年8月10日(金) 16:42 AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> BISG has released a tweet today on the white paper we have been working on
>>> in the EPUB Roadmap TF.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I wanted to present it in a future PBG call but as it is now public, here it
>>> is:
>>> 
>>> Here is the link :
>>> https://github.com/readium/readium.github.io/wiki/EPUB-2-sunset
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Any comments are welcome of course.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> And I think we should publish it in a W3C blog. Ivan, is it possible?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Luc
>>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
>> 
>> Makoto
>