Re: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme

On May 10, 2017, at 10:28 AM, AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr> wrote:

> Lisa, thanks for the better description.
> Would you mind if I insist on accessibility?
+1 please add Accessibility. This is a work-in-progress initial framing for the event, and needs everyone's input and great ideas!

Karen

> Luc
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> De : "McCloy-Kelley, Liisa" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>
> Date : mercredi 10 mai 2017 à 14:01
> À : AUDRAIN LUC AUDRAIN LUC <laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>, Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>, 'Paul Belfanti' <Paul.Belfanti@ascendlearning.com>, 'Bill Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, "'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc : 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Objet : Re: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
> 
> Luc- I think these two are not in opposition really. There are new needs at this point as we start to address more segments of publishing and a world beyond basic books.  And the “rich traditions” that publishing brings are things like good typesetting and readability for text that have not been priorities for the web until now. But do you think perhaps “evolving needs” might be a better description? 
> 
> Tzviya and Dave- I think Dave made some great notes in his rewrite, but it is important to keep in mind that we are trying to get that segment of our industry that would have typically come out for the BEA Digicon event to come to this. It’s not just meant for the techy crowd who would go to ebookcraft or even books in browsers, which are more hands on and more anti-establishment. So what would it take to get Peter and Rena and others of your colleagues to California for this event? 
> 
> 
> Below is my slightly edited version:
> 
> Connecting at the Crossroads:  Building a Roadmap for Publishing and Web Convergence
>  
> The vision to bring the rich traditions and best practices of the Publishing Industry to the Web and to make all publications first class citizens on the Web is now part of the exciting roadmap for Publishing@W3C.  This convergence is not only technological, it’s fundamentally being driven by consumer experiences in how they create, read and share information and knowledge on their connected devices of choice. 
>  
> Building upon on the success of IDPF’s DigiCon events, the new W3C Publishing Summit on 9-10 November 2017 will address the evolving needs of all segments of publishing, including trade book, educational, academic and scholarly, libraries, newspapers and magazines as well as professional and corporate publications. 
>  
> Web and publishing industry experts will share concrete, practical insights you can put to use today to improve workflows, make better and more engaging products, increase discoverability, and reduce costs.  You'll learn new ways to leverage mobile and other connected devices for your customers.  And you’ll hear about exciting new solutions on the horizon for greater interactivity, data analytics, virtual reality, and new business models for publishers made possible with Web payments. 
>  
>  
> Who should attend: senior leaders in technology, content management and production, product management and business strategy from book, magazine, academic and professional, and corporate publishing.
> 
> 
> From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 3:38 AM
> To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>, 'Paul Belfanti' <Paul.Belfanti@ascendlearning.com>, 'Bill Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, "'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc: 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
> Resent-From: <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 3:39 AM
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 2 comments :
> « address the emerging needs of all segments of publishing » in the second paragraph seems in opposition with « the rich traditions and best practices of the Publishing industry » in the first one. Would « address the needs » be sufficient?
> We should add something on accessibility in the 3rd paragraph.
> Best,
> Luc
> 
> 
> De : Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
> Société : W3C
> Date : mardi 9 mai 2017 à 20:01
> À : 'Paul Belfanti' <Paul.Belfanti@ascendlearning.com>, 'Bill Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, "'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc : 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Objet : RE: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
> Renvoyer - De : <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Renvoyer - Date : mardi 9 mai 2017 à 20:02
> 
> Thanks Paul and obviously we didn’t have any spare agenda time in today’s PBG call so it wasn’t timely to share with PBG as a whole.
>  
> But, I would like to do so ASAP, and also get the wheels in motion within W3C Team on the planning details and public announcement, asap (definitely before next week’s PBG SC call). We certainly don’t have to (and should not) represent it as a final theme statement of course, and can further adjust at any time (ideally before initial public announcement of the event, but we could even fine-tune after that).
>  
> So folks please get comments out ASAP, if I hear nothing but LGTM within the next 30 hours (i.e. by end of day Wed Pacific time) I will a) send to PBG as part of soliciting interest in Program Committee participation and b) proceed on getting said wheels in motion. IF you have comments not for the SC as a whole you can send to me or to me+Karen. If there are any edits in next 30 hours, I’ll resend to the group and if they are material will request another pass of SC feedback before next steps.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> --Bill
>  
> From: Paul Belfanti [mailto:Paul.Belfanti@ascendlearning.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 10:09 AM
> To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>; 'Bill Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>; 'PBG Steering Committee (Public)' <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc: 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
>  
> LGTM ☺
>  
> Paul 
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> From: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
> Organization: W3C
> Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 12:12 PM
> To: 'Bill Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>, "'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc: 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
> Resent-From: <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 12:13 PM
>  
> Correct, I would like the whole PBG to see the “theme” (to solicit help in program committee) but I felt that the SC might have more input since Karen and I were kind of going closed loop (with some input from Rick in Beijing) on refining from the original draft shared with PBG after our (now ages ago) March F2F in London (said original draft, from me, having been deemed not very good).
>  
> So I’m holding off sending to the full PBG unless there is some LGTM immediate feedback right now + nothing else.
>  
> --Bill
>  
> From: Bill Kasdorf [mailto:bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 9:06 AM
> To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>; 'PBG Steering Committee (Public)' <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
> Cc: 'Karen Myers' <karen@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
>  
> Note that this is the general PBG meeting, not the SC meeting.
>  
> Bill Kasdorf
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> From: Bill McCoy [mailto:bmccoy@w3.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:50 AM
> To: 'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'
> Cc: 'Karen Myers'
> Subject: late incoming: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
>  
> Hi PBG SC folks,
>  
> This just in time from Karen. I +1 her improvements but hesitate to just send (this latest revision) to PBG a few minutes before the meeting. But if co-chairs or anyone else say yes, I will do. I would in any case request 2 minutes during the “other business” agenda item to request participation in program committee for the Publishing@W3C Summit (as we said in earlier SC call that in addition to interested members of the SC the program committee should include others as well) and give a brief status update about the event (still hoping we can get initial public announcement done this month).
>  
> --Bill
>  
> From: Karen Myers [mailto:karen@w3.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 8:40 AM
> To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
>  
> Hi Bill,
>  
> Here's a new take incorporating your feedback:
>  
> Karen
>  
> Connecting at the Crossroads:  Roadmap for Digital Publishing and the Web
>  
> The vision to bring the rich traditions and best practices of the Publishing industry to the Web and to make all publications first class citizens on the Web is now part of the exciting roadmap for Publishing at W3C.  This convergence is not only technological, it’s fundamentally being driven by consumer experiences in how they create, read and share information and knowledge on their connected devices of choice.
>  
> Building upon on the success of IDPF’s DigiCon events, the new W3C Publishing Summit on 9-10 November 2017 will address the emerging needs of all segments of publishing, including trade book, educational, academic and scholarly, libraries, newspapers and magazines as well as professional and corporate. 
>  
> Web and publishing industry experts will share concrete, practical insights you can put to use today to improve workflows, discoverability, and reduce costs.  You'll learn new ways to leverage mobile and other connected devices for your customers.  And you’ll hear about exciting new solutions on the horizon for greater interactivity, data analytics, virtual reality, and new business models for publishers made possible with Web payments.
>  
>  
> Who should attend: senior leaders in technology, content management and production, product management and business strategy from book, magazine, academic and professional, and corporate publishing.
>  
>  
> On May 5, 2017, at 9:39 AM, "Bill McCoy" <bmccoy@w3.org> wrote:
>  
> 
>> Hi Karen, definitely an improvement!
>> 
>> My biggest concern is that there is no reference to the cross-segment aspect
>> other than the not totally clear reference to breaking out of traditional
>> silos (but it's not clear to me that folks will understand what is meant by
>> this as silos often refers to e.g. vendor silos like Amazon Kindle or Apple
>> iOS) and stating at the end " book, magazine, academic and professional, and
>> corporate publishing" should attend. But there is no, from the perspective
>> of those in it, a singular "the publishing industry" but multiple industries
>> and there is certainly no "the supply chain" - one of the key things that
>> distinguishes the fields of publishing is that each field has its own
>> distinct supply chain, there is some overlap (one piece of trivia: paperback
>> books were originally distributed via magazine channels not bookstores) but
>> not much.
>> 
>> Perhaps you could extend your "crossroads" metaphor to touch on the segments
>> of publishing converging thanks to digital transformation and the universal
>> Web platform? Or more explicitly tie the "break out of silos" thing to the
>> different fields of publishing?
>> 
>> Also, I don't think that " and take full advantage of the Open Web Platform"
>> is a major driver that warrants being in the lede. If you are in any of
>> these fields you only want to take advantage of X, for any X including Open
>> Web Platform, if it advances your business. I.e. it is only a means to an
>> end. We could say that the Open Web Platform is an enabler, and driver, of
>> convergence but to some extent the convergence is being driven by something
>> even bigger than the Web - consumers doing everything on just one or two
>> general-purpose devices. Maybe working the word "mobile" in the blurb
>> somewhere could be helpful? Some people would argue that "Mobile is Eating
>> the World" [1] is the big story, and the Open Web Platform is simply the
>> means for dealing with that without falling into the trap of lock-in to
>> vendor platforms.
>> 
>> I like your subtitle but maybe in this vein Web is too prominent? Could it
>> work as ""Connecting at the Crossroads: Publishing Roadmap for Convergence
>> and Digital Transformation Via the Web" - OK maybe too many words (my
>> speciality) but maybe you get the point...
>> 
>> Perhaps you could take another pass at it and then we can get it in front of
>> the PBG-SC to have some more eyes on it?
>> 
>> I'm around today but in constant meetings from now until 1pm Pacific (4pm
>> ET), can talk  after that, or over the weekend or Monday (FYI my Mom is
>> still in the hospital for a couple more days but just because the healing
>> process is going a bit more slowly than the hope-for best case, everything
>> is great otherwise).
>> 
>> --Bill
>> 
>> [1] http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2016/12/8/mobile-is-eating-the-world 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Karen Myers [mailto:karen@w3.org] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 5:47 PM
>> To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
>> Subject: Publishing@W3C Summit Theme
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> I've struggled mightily with the framing on this one.
>> 
>> Try this out:
>> 
>> Themeline:
>> 
>> Publishing@W3C Summit:
>> "Connecting at the Crossroads: Web and Publishing Roadmap for Success"
>> or
>> "Content at the Crossroads: Web and Publishing Roadmap for Success"
>> 
>> Blurb:
>> 
>> Empowering digitally published content to break out of traditional silos and
>> take full advantage of the Open Web Platform is both the challenge and the
>> opportunity for the future of publishing. In this exciting day-and-a-half
>> conference, we'll address head-on the fundamental issues holding back the
>> publishing industry and the supply chain, and identify the impactful
>> solutions on the Publishing@W3C roadmap for short- and long-term success.
>> Web and publishing industry experts will share concrete, practical insights
>> you can put to use today to improve workflows, discoverability, leverage
>> device capabilities and reduce costs.  And, you'll hear about exciting new
>> solutions on the horizon for greater interactivity, data analytics, virtual
>> reality, and new business models for publishers made possible with web
>> payments. 
>> 
>> 
>> Who should attend: senior leaders in technology, content management and
>> production, and business strategy from book, magazine, academic and
>> professional, and corporate publishing.
>> 
>> Let's catch up tomorrow and iterate.
>> 
>> Karen
>> 
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