RE: about the Nov events

Agreed on the acronyms. I get emails from the New York Times every week about VR. ;)

Actually, agreed on everything else you said too.

--Bill K

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill McCoy [mailto:bmccoy@w3.org] 
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Subject: RE: about the Nov events

Hi BillK,

Just to be clear, in my fodder to Karen for the blurb the mentions of VR and IoT were semi-random, this was just in my mind a  placeholder for something where we would be hinting at (in the marketing pitch) and delivering on (in the content of the event) information about the many things going on around the Open Web Platform that promise to be relevant to publishing (in the broadest sense) that are NOT necessarily already on publishing folks radar (as, hopefully, Accessibility, Annotations, and Rights would be). I wasn't necessarily suggesting that VR and IoT deserved special treatment or even top billing. And I could imagine delving into topics that could be relevant but aren't necessarily focused on specific W3C work areas (for example how Progressive Web Apps are increasingly an alternative to having to develop native mobile and desktop apps on multiple platforms).

So, I solicit comments about this from the SC.

Re: acronyms, I guess my $.02 is that VR is established as a consumer term but IoT should be spelled out... but that's not based on any particular data just a gut feeling...

--Bill

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Subject: RE: about the Nov events

I like the blurb--nice job. That, and your email, are both consistent with how I understood the event to be pitched.

One copy question for the group: "other Web initiatives that will impact publishing from VR to Payments to IoT" picks sexy topics that will likely get people's attention, which may be exactly what we want to do. But from a practical point of view, things like Accessibility, Annotations, and POE
(Rights) are of more practical interest and near-term use for most publishers than VR and IoT (I'd definitely keep Payments). Which pitch makes more sense for this? I can see arguments on both sides.

--Bill K

P.S. In my perpetual war against acronyms, I would point out that if we are trying to attract non-TPAC types, it would be better to spell out "Virtual Reality" and "Internet of Things" if we want to keep those two. I don't feel strongly about this because probably most people who will actually come will know what VR and IoT are. I just felt obligated to raise the point. ;) These are not as mystifying and exclusionary as A11y and I18n, which I would NEVER use in something going out to the general public.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill McCoy [mailto:bmccoy@w3.org]
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Subject: RE: about the Nov events

I fully agree with Tzviya that we don't want people working on publishing at W3C to be in a silo.

But with respect to the Publishing@W3C Summit (Nov 9 & AM of Nov 10), the idea is that this would NOT be expected to draw its attendees primarily from the typical W3C TPAC audience, but more like for example the last two EPUB Summits or historical IDPF conferences. Even W3C members might send different people to the Publishing@W3C Summit than they send to other TPAC activities. This is a bit different than the "Publishing Community Meeting"
in Lisbon which was set up as a chance for IDPF members to engage in W3C and visa-versa.  But, in line with the consensus at the PBG SC meeting in London, we are NOT aiming for C-level executives (who it was agreed are unlikely to come to a W3C event in SF).

So in some sense some, maybe most, attendees at this event - certainly those from non-members and even some from members who are not interested in the nitty-gritty of spec development - *will* be siloed from other TPAC activities, but that's because of the goal of the event to attract a broader audience and because the event is mainly just opportunistically co-located with TPAC due to the accident of having extra space at the venue. There will be a very minimal extra cost to attend for members attending other TPAC week events so we hopefully will get some synergies but that is not the main goal.

Draft of "blurb" about the Publishing@W3C Summit follows, this is my input to Karen (cc:) and I was planning to send to this group after her editing/rewriting but she's on a business trip so it may shorten the loop if folks made comments/suggestions now.

Thanks,

--Bill

Publishing@W3C Summit Nov 9-10, 2017 San Francisco

The Open Web Platform is enabling the future of publishing - join us at the first-ever Publishing@W3C Summit

Digital publications afford the promise of reaching everyone, everywhere.
But that doesn't work if your content is locked into proprietary vendor silos. The Open Web Platform, including key enablers like EPUB and HTML5, is the universal interoperable platform for content and experiences.
Publishing@W3C Summit  is a one-and-a-half day conference that will cover how the Web Platform is enabling digital publishing to transcend the limits of the paper-replica era, covering the latest developments for EPUB and Web Publications as well as other aspects of the Open Web Platform. You'll hear from publishers across all segments of the diverse publishing industry and others who are successfully utilizing EPUB and Web Standards for content distribution, for content production, even for printing. You'll also learn about other Web initiatives that will impact publishing from VR to Payments to IoT.  Come away from this event with practical insights that you can put to use now, with a clear perspective on the future of publishing that, by participating in this Summit, you will help shape.

Who should attend: senior leaders in technology, content management and production, and business strategy from book, magazine, academic and professional, and corporate publishing.

Logistics: The Publishing@W3C Summit 2017 will take place at the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Airport, conveniently located in Burlingame, 3 miles from SFO, in between San Francisco and  Silicon Valley. Early-bird registration will open May 1, 2017. The Publishing@W3C Summit is open to the public, but will be co-located with W3C's annual meeting, TPAC. Participants participating in other TPAC activities will be able to register for the Publishing@W3C Summit for a nominal extra charge.

Sponsorship opportunities are available. Content Bill McCoy (bmccoy@w3.org) or Karen Myers (karen@w3.org) for more information.



-----Original Message-----
From: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:01 AM
To: Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: about the Nov events

I agree with Dave. While we want to make sure that there is publishing presence at TPAC, we also want to make sure that we don't silo ourselves off from other groups. It was a challenge last year to jump from the EPUB meetings to the ARIA meetings that I was supposed to be attending. Remote participation is essential for this community, especially the CG.
Tzviya 

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> On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:34 PM, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com> wrote:
>> Re EPUB CG meeting... yes,, and Ivan pointed out that CG meetings are 
>> generally just a couple of hours.  So, it seems that would be 
>> potentially okay, overlapping with with Digital Publishing conference 
>> (but not the Publishing WG or DPUB BG).  That's *if* we wanna have 
>> that
much Publishing!
>> :-)
> 
> I want as many people as possible to participate in the community 
> group, and having F2F meetings is an excellent way to limit 
> participation to those with substantial amounts of time and money.
> 
> As it is, TPAC is going to be a huge problem for those of us who are 
> in other working groups (CSS, HTML, WCAG, ARIA, etc.). If there are 
> going to be future publishing summits co-located with TPAC, I'd urge 
> that they be scheduled adjacent to rather than during TPAC.
> 
> Dave
>

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