Re: Like any good software project...

> On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:01, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com <mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:
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> I was not aware of the hard stop in 2020…that does indeed impact things since I do agree with you that we need a good amount of time for actual implementations in CR.
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> Does W3C not allow for extensions to charters/projects?

It does but not always. Things have to be in a good state, ie, clearly on the way of a successful finish. Otherwise it is a struggle. We should not plan for it.

Cheers

Ivan


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> Leonard
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> From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>>
> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 2:31 AM
> To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com <mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
> Cc: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com <mailto:garth@google.com>>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
> Subject: Re: Like any good software project...
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> Leonard,
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> I find your arguments compelling. That being said, we should also balance with the fact that that we will have a hard stop in July 2020, and we may need quite a lot of time for a proper CR phase (ie, implementations). Starting the CR phase later might be a problem.
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> I am less worried about the FPWD. *If* we indeed go with the idea (discussed in Toronto) that EPUB4 would pick up the packaging format of EPUB3, then the EPUB4 document might be fairly simple, because we would probably just refer to existing standards for the bulk of the packaging part.
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> Also: many implementations of WP might be, in fact, EPUB4 implementations, insofar as they would work through the (un)packaging to then implement WP (that would be the case for 'traditional' Reading Systems). That is what motivated us to sync up the CR of WP and EPUB4…
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> Ivan
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>> On 21 Jun 2018, at 00:48, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com <mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:
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>> I am surprised that you think we’ll be able to go from FPWD to CR on EPUB4 in 6 months.  I would expect at least a year to CR.  Also, given that we just started on it, I am not convinced we can get to FPWD by Q4 of this year.
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>> Just based on current experience and progress of this group…
>> 
>> Leonard
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>> From: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com <mailto:garth@google.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:28 PM
>> To: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
>> Subject: Like any good software project...
>> 
>> Hi WP-ers,
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>> Please see below for the updated milestones for the WP/PWP/EPUB4 deliverables as suggested by Tzviya, Ivan, and me.  Baring complaints, we'll codify this in the next few days.
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>> Thanks much!
>> 
>> Best,
>>    Garth
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>> Web Publications (WP):
>> First Public Working Draft (FPWD): Q4 2017
>> Candidate Recommendation (CR): Q2 2019
>> Recommendation (REC): Q2 2020
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>> Packaged Web Publications (PWP):
>> <On hold pending requirements and potential Web Packaging finalization>
>> First Public Working Draft (FPWD):
>> Candidate Recommendation (CR):
>> Recommendation (REC):
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>> EPUB 4:
>> First Public Working Draft (FPWD): Q4 2018
>> Candidate Recommendation (CR): Q2 2019
>> Recommendation (REC): Q2 2020
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