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Re: EPUB Test Suite

From: Ric Wright <rkwright@geofx.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:46:20 -0700
To: "McCloy-Kelley, Liisa" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>, Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>
CC: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D78480AE.64E2C5%rkwright@geofx.com>

Understood.  Let me burrow around in all my old writings around testing
EPUBs and try to put together something useful.


From:  "McCloy-Kelley, Liisa" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>
Date:  Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:10 AM
To:  Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>, Ric Wright <rkwright@geofx.com>
Cc:  W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject:  Re: EPUB Test Suite
Resent-From:  <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date:  Fri, 27 Jul 2018 16:10:33 +0000

The part of this that DAISY has taken over is just the accessibility
testing, which they are moving forward with quickly.
We discussed this with the Publishing@W3C SC today and it is still unclear
beyond the testing that is necessary for HTML/API checks within the W3C
world for spec writing what other kinds of tests are necessary to support
the advancement of the publishing community.
What kinds of tests are you looking for here? What would help you? It would
be greatly appreciated if you could help us with more context so that we can
work on figuring out where and how this should be developed.
Thanks much!

From: Bill Kasdorf <kasdorf.bill@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 27, 2018 at 11:00 AM
To: Ric Wright <rkwright@geofx.com>
Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: EPUB Test Suite
Resent-From: <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Friday, July 27, 2018 at 11:08 AM

Correct, this isnıt part of epubcheck, itıs part of epubtest.org
<http://epubtest.org> . Daisy is in control of the test suite at this point
and theyıre currently working on a bit of re-engineering to better optimize
the accessibility testing. We currently have no clear path forward for the
mainstream testing. The decision was made to keep it alive but with
prominent notices that it is out of date. Not sure if the latter got
implemented yet. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2018, at 5:40 PM, Ric Wright <rkwright@geofx.com> wrote:

Who owns this now?  I am in the midst of a number of tests of our
Readium-based RS.  For part of it I use the TS, but it is not a very
thorough set of tests (excellent as far as it goes, but it has a lot of
shortfalls so I get a little frustrated).  Who is working on improving it?
I donıt believe this is part of the ³EPUBCheck² reset.






From: Ric Wright <rkwright@geofx.com>
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 11:59 AM
To: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Cover-image redux
Resent-From: <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 19:01:09 +0000


<Garth, brace yourself, more of Ricıs nutty graphics ahead>


After listening to the discussion on Monday about covers and cover-images, I
started thinking about what kinds of graphics could be on a cover page.
Naturally, given my background, I thought of SVG and OpenGL. There is also
CSS3, with all its bells and whistles too.  So to see what it might be like,
I created an EPUB with an OpenGL (WebGL) animation on the title page.  You
can see the result here (Tiny-EPUB GLCover
<https://readium.firebaseapp.com/?> ).


One cannot specify a ³cover-image² property which references a XHTML page
(EPUBCheck throws an error). So I just leave that property out.  In Readium,
our UA doesnıt see a  cover page, so it just fetches the metadata and
creates a plain title page, just like normal.  But when the book itself is
opened, the real, WebGL-enabled title page is shown and voila!  an WebGL
animation is displayed.  In iBooks, the result is the same except that
iBooks has a bit of a problem laying out the title page so itıs not quite
right, probably because iBooks doesnıt handle mixed (reflow/fixed) pages
very well.


One could also create SVG animations or CSS3 animations as well.  In theory,
the UA could even figure out that the library page with thumbnails should be
animated, but the overhead would be huge and the idea of a significant
number of animations occurring in the library page at one time is kind of
dizzying. Probably not a good idea.


I am not suggesting that this is a great idea or plan to do it with all my
books, just demonstrating that within the scope of the EPUB spec as it
stands you can do some ³interesting² demos.



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