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RE: [personalization] Changing the name of hero

From: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 13:38:39 -0400
To: "'Leonard Rosenthol'" <lrosenth@adobe.com>, "'MURATA Makoto'" <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>, "'W3C Publishing Working Group'" <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
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I don't think anyone is suggesting we should allow users to change any content they please. There's always author permission involved – either to provide the alternative content or identify what can be changed.

 

It's more a question of whether content can be tailored to different readers, and whether it's in our scope to define how. I'd suggest this kind of question belongs in the business group first to investigate and prioritize as we have plenty to do already.

 

Matt

 

From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com] 
Sent: July 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>; 'MURATA Makoto' <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>; 'W3C Publishing Working Group' <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [personalization] Changing the name of hero

 

I agree that for publications where this makes sense, it seems reasonable to coordinate with these other groups…

 

But let’s remember that there are many(!!) other types of publications that we hope to see as (P)WPs in the future where there is either (a) no such things as a hero/heroine or (b) where changing it would be inappropriate/incorrect.

 

Leonard

 

From: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com <mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com> >
Date: Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 8:49 AM
To: 'MURATA Makoto' <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp <mailto:eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> >, 'W3C Publishing Working Group' <public-publ-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org> >
Subject: RE: [personalization] Changing the name of hero
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Resent-Date: Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 8:49 AM

 

> Can WPs take advantage of Personalization Semantics?

 

We're not placing any restrictions on the content of a WP (it seems right now, anyway). Whenever they're sufficiently stable and supported they could be used.

 

Matt

 

From: eb2mmrt@gmail.com <mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com>  [mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com] On Behalf Of MURATA Makoto
Sent: July 29, 2017 8:30 AM
To: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org> >
Subject: Re: [personalization] Changing the name of hero

 

 

 

2017-07-29 21:18 GMT+09:00 Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com <mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com> >:

It's also in the personalization specification: https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-1.0/#coga-alternative <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fpersonalization-semantics-1.0%2F%23coga-alternative&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb4558dc6f2f94823de4208d4d6803c9d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636369293645457986&sdata=dUHqb1hg6mSHbyVsym4qAsBHkToPYLD7KCT9hK6DE%2BE%3D&reserved=0> 

 

I don't think it's for this group to solve.

 


Interesting!  Can WPs take advantage of Personalization Semantics?

 

Regards,

Makoto

 

Matt

 

From: Daniel Weck [mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com <mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: July 29, 2017 6:22 AM
To: MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp <mailto:eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> >; Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org <mailto:charlesl@benetech.org> >
Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org> >
Subject: Re: [personalization] Changing the name of hero

 

FYI: in the DIAGRAM project this is codified as "simplified language", and it is one of the possible alternatives for accessible extended descriptions.

http://diagramcenter.org/standards-and-practices/content-model.html <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdiagramcenter.org%2Fstandards-and-practices%2Fcontent-model.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb4558dc6f2f94823de4208d4d6803c9d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636369293645457986&sdata=FGH2QHpPUgUH1rnRaqEev51ddWKM%2F%2FewuC4stk2T%2Bx0%3D&reserved=0> 

Regards, Daniel

 

On 29 Jul 2017 9:09 am, "MURATA Makoto" <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp <mailto:eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> > wrote:

One of my friends suggested that, as do computer games, 

future web publications should allow readers to change 

the names of heroes and heroines.  We might want to go further.  

Some authors hesitate to use difficult expressions but they would 

like to use them if they know when the current reader is well 

educated.  Future publications should allow automatic rewriting 

based on user preferences.

 

Is this in the scope of this tack force?

 

Regards,

Makoto





 

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