- From: Khalid Belhajjame <Khalid.Belhajjame@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 16:27:14 +0100
- To: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
- CC: Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>, public-prov-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <4FAA8CD2.4060500@cs.man.ac.uk>
I think that definition 13 is probably crisper than definition 12. That said, I don't think it makes much difference adopting def 12 or def 13. I would go for definition 13, I think in the dm we can afford to be more explicit than in other documents. On 09/05/2012 13:27, Jim McCusker wrote: > > Definition 13 is effectively the same as 12, but makes it explicit > that time intervals maybe used, but are not needed. > > We voted on this last week and introduced it the week before, you can > see it in the minutes. > > Jim > > On May 9, 2012 8:10 AM, "Jun Zhao" <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk > <mailto:jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>> wrote: > > Hi Luc and all, > > I understand that this is call for comments or not for voting.:) > > I only looked at section 4.4 in the diff file. I see that you are > adopting the Definitions 13 [1], although I don't recall that as a > group we ever voted on this. > > Anyway, personally, I prefer definitions 12 than 13. Def 13 is a > bit too specific to my taste:) For example, the mentioning of life > span of a specialization and a specialized entity. And the > mentioning of overlaps between alternative entities is vague for > me. I don't quite understand what we mean by overlapping, what > overlaps, the representation themselves? > > Believe me, he last thing I want is to trigger another round of > discussions on this. If I vote, I will vote to have definitions 12 > in the DM for the above reasons. > That is a good example of wasStartedByActivity :-) Thanks, khalid > > btw, I didn't find the "mountains" in the diff file. I hope I read > the right doc. > > [1] > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/SpecializationAlternateDefinitions#Definitions_13_.28refinement_of_12.29 > > Cheers, > > Jun > > > On 08/05/2012 21:09, Luc Moreau wrote: > > I just added 'mountain' as an example of physical thing. > > On 08/05/12 16:58, Jim McCusker wrote: > > Replace building with mountain, I think. > > Jim > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Luc Moreau > <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> > <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>> wrote: > > Jim, > > Do you want to suggest an example? > > > Professor Luc Moreau > Electronics and Computer Science > University of Southampton > Southampton SO17 1BJ > United Kingdom > > On 8 May 2012, at 16:48, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu > <mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu> > <mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@rpi.edu>>> wrote: > > This comment is indirectly derivedFrom this change: > > All of the examples of entities are human-created > artifacts. > Should we try to include at least one that wasn't > created by a human? > > Jim > > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Luc Moreau > <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> > <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > <mailto:L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>>> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Following resolution [1], the new definitions of > alternate/specialization/entity > have been included in the prov-dm Editor's draft [2]. > For a diff of the changes (since last WD) see [3]. > > Comments welcome! > Cheers, > Luc > > > > > [1] > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2012-05-03#resolution_2 > [2] > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html > [3] > https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/ce56dc32ba1e/model/diff.html > > -- Professor Luc Moreau > Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 > <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%204487> > <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%204487> > University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 > <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865> > <tel:%2B44%2023%208059%202865> > Southampton SO17 1BJ email: > l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> > <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk > <mailto:l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> > United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm > <http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm> > <http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Elavm> > > > > > > -- Jim McCusker > Programmer Analyst > Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics > Yale School of Medicine > james.mccusker@yale.edu > <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu> > <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu > <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu>> | (203) > 785-6330 <tel:%28203%29%20785-6330> > http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu > > PhD Student > Tetherless World Constellation > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu> > <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu>> > http://tw.rpi.edu > > > > > > -- > Jim McCusker > Programmer Analyst > Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics > Yale School of Medicine > james.mccusker@yale.edu <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu> > <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu > <mailto:james.mccusker@yale.edu>> | (203) 785-6330 > <tel:%28203%29%20785-6330> > http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu > > PhD Student > Tetherless World Constellation > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu> > <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu <mailto:mccusj@cs.rpi.edu>> > http://tw.rpi.edu > > > >
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