- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:19:57 +0000
- To: Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <EMEW3|206ca6b5e31243b4b153ceacb5d888edo27LLI08L.Moreau|ecs.soton.ac.uk|4F59227D>
Thanks Sam, Tracker, this is ISSUE-274. Luc -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FW: Review of Provenance DM documents Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:31:44 +0100 From: Sam Coppens UGent <sam.coppens@ugent.be> To: 'Luc Moreau' <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hello Luc, I send my review for PROV-DM again, because I am not sure you received it. Two weeks ago, I posted this to the prov mailing list, but with a different email address than the one I am listed on at W3C, because of a mail server crash. Because of this, it took some days before it was distributed to the PROV list. This is, I think, the reason my review wasn`t good received. In mean time, the mail server is up again and if you want I can send it again to the prov mailing list, this time using the right email address. Best, Sam -- Sam Coppens Ghent University - IBBT Faculty of Engineering Department of Electronics and Information Systems Multimedia Lab Gaston Crommenlaan 8 bus 201 B-9050 Ledeberg-Ghent Belgium t: +32 9 33 14959 f: +32 9 33 14896 t secr: +32 9 33 14911 e: sam.coppens@ugent.be <mailto:sam.coppens@ugent.be> or samcoppens@hotmail.com <mailto:samcoppens@hotmail.com> URL: http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be <http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/> *From:* Sam Coppens UGent [mailto:sam.coppens@ugent.be] *Sent:* Thursday, March 01, 2012 10:38 AM *To:* 'public-prov-wg@w3.org' *Subject:* Review of Provenance DM documents Hello, Here is my review of the PROV-DM documents. Best, Sam In general: The overall structure of the document is very clear and things are now nicely separated (data model, its constraints and its expression in PROV-ASN). This allows to find faster the information needed. All three documents are well written and understandable. In general, I would say it is a very good improvement over the previous version where everything was in 1 document. I would recommend this version to become the editor`s draft. PROV-DM part 1: General Remarks: In Section 1 , the paragraph right in front of section 1.1 talks about an `upgrade path` to enrich simple provenance with extra descriptions. The notion of an `upgrade path` must be clarified, because it is nowhere used in the remainder of the document, neither in PROV-DM part 2. It is confusing at the moment. Section 2, Subsection2.3: AccountEntity very shortly explained here. The notion of account is better specified in PROV-DM part 2. From the provided definition here it is not clear that the provenance of the same entity can be expressed as different accounts. The definition of AccountEntity also includes ` resource`, which is quite confusing, because it is not part of the provenance terminilogy. Maybe replace it by `Entity`. Section 3, Subsection 3.1: The publication activity ex:pub1 ex:pub2 used a publication request (ar3:0111); Section 4, Subsection 4.1.4: `A separate PROV-DM relation is used to associate a note with something that is identifiable (see Section on annotation). A given note may be associated with multiple identifiable things.` `Things` is confusing here. It is maybe better to say entity and/or activity. `Thing` brings in some semantics. Section 5, Subsection 5.7: The added value of `Original Source` over `Traceability` is not clear. It should be better explained why we need this relation. IMO, it could be expressed as a traceability relation or a specialization of the traceability relation. Spelling Corrections: Section 2, Subsection 2.1: Activity definition: two phrases after each other are the same: `An activity is anything that can operate on entities. In particular, activities may produce, consume, or transform an entity. Activities that operate on digital entities may for example move, copy, or duplicate them. Activities that operate on digital entities may for example move, copy, or duplicate them.` Section 2, Subsection 2.2: Usage definition: Usage is the beginning on an entity being consumed by an activity. Before usage, the activity had not begun to consume or use to this entity (and could not have been affected by the entity). Section 4, Subsection 4.1.4: example: `The note is associated with the entity tr:WD-prov-dm-20111215 previously introduced (hasAnnotation is discussed in Section Annotation). The note's identifier and attributes are declares declared in a separate namespace denoted by prefix ex2.` PROV-DM part 2: General Remarks: Section 1 & Section 2: These two sections are further refinements of the already explained data model. IMO, these sections could be included in PROV-DM part 1. The event based perspective on provenance is part of the core prov-dm model. Then PROV-DM part 2 focusses on the additional constraints. Section 2, Subsection 2.2: The example of different perspectives on a resource with a URL is essential in making accounts of provenance clear. What still needs some attention in the document is the relation entity -- entity record and how they are identified and which of these two identifiers are referred to when pointing to an entity. An example would make it clear. (maybe PROV-DM part 1 is a better place to explain this) Spelling Corrections: Section 4, Intro: In this section, we revisit elements and relations of PROV-DM, and examine and examine the constraints associated with their definitions. Section 4, Subsection 4.2.1: This entity become becomes available for usage after this instantaneous event. Section 4, Subsection 4.2.6: precise-1 derivation is richer than an imprecise-1 derivation, itself, being more informative that an imprecise-n derivation_._ Hence, the following implications hold. Section 6, Intro: We anticipate that verification algorithms could be developedm, though this verification is outside the scope of this specification. PROV-DM part 3: General Remarks: No Remarks. Spelling Corrections: Section 3, Subsection 3.2.7: `A specialization relation`s text matches the specializationExpression_ _production.` -- Sam Coppens Ghent University - IBBT Faculty of Engineering Department of Electronics and Information Systems Multimedia Lab Gaston Crommenlaan 8 bus 201 B-9050 Ledeberg-Ghent Belgium t: +32 9 33 14959 f: +32 9 33 14896 t secr: +32 9 33 14911 e: sam.coppens@ugent.be <mailto:sam.coppens@ugent.be> or samcoppens@hotmail.com <mailto:samcoppens@hotmail.com> URL: http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be <http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/>
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