Re: PROV-ISSUE-217 (account-asserter): What is the asserter of an account? [prov-dm]

Hi Daniel,
This is a prov-dm issue, I don't know what it means yet, given how 
accounts are now addressed.
Luc

On 05/03/12 21:30, Daniel Garijo wrote:
> Hi Luc,
> since we have relaxed the requirements on accounts on the dm, does 
> this issue still hold?
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
> 2012/1/16 Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker 
> <sysbot+tracker@w3.org <mailto:sysbot%2Btracker@w3.org>>
>
>
>     PROV-ISSUE-217 (account-asserter): What is the asserter of an
>     account? [prov-dm]
>
>     http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/217
>
>     Raised by: Luc Moreau
>     On product: prov-dm
>
>     The prov-dm document contains the following note, in the account
>     section:
>
>     Currently, the non-terminal asserter is defined as IRI and its
>     interpretation is outside PROV-DM. We may want the asserter to be
>     an agent instead, and therefore use PROV-DM to express the
>     provenance of PROV-DM assertions. The editors seek inputs on how
>     to resolve this issue.
>
>     Tim, in his design of accounts, is running ahead, making
>     assumptions about the asserter.
>
>     So, are we supporting the following proposal:
>     an Account asserter is an agent.
>
>     Following this, a further question follows.
>     Assuming we have an entity ex:acc representing an account
>     entity(ex:acc)  // details to be finalized when we understand what
>     identifiers are
>     and we express some provenance:
>     wasGenerated(ex:acc,ex:activity)
>     wasAttributed(ex:acc,ex:agent)
>     ....
>
>     Do we have any restrictions about where these provenance records
>     can occur?
>     Can they be for instance included inside the account itself?
>
>     Or should they necessarily be occurring outside the account?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Luc
>
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