Re: PROV-ISSUE-444 (prov-o-to-last-call): Review PROV-O for last call [PROV-O HTML]

Yes, correct, they should NOT be functional.

Professor Luc Moreau
Electronics and Computer Science
University of Southampton 
Southampton SO17 1BJ
United Kingdom

On 9 Jul 2012, at 15:16, "Timothy Lebo" <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote:

> Luc,
> 
> On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
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>> 
>> Hi Tim
>> 
>> If wasGeneratedBy is not functional , why is wasGeneratedAt functional?
>> 
>> Indeed, we could have multiple qualified generations, and therefore multiple generation times.
>> (note this is all scruffy provenance)
> 
> Yes. So you're recommending that generatedAtTime NOT be functional?
> This is where I was heading by asking whether this was a prov-dm characteristics or prov-constriants.
> 
> If you think it should NOT be functional based on DM, then I agree.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> 
>> 
>> Luc
>> 
>> 
>> ____________________________________
>> From: Timothy Lebo [lebot@rpi.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:03 PM
>> To: Luc Moreau
>> Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: PROV-ISSUE-444 (prov-o-to-last-call): Review PROV-O for last   call [PROV-O HTML]
>> 
>> Luc,
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Note: I think qualifiedXXX is *inverse* functional.
>>> 
>>> Hence, I don't think that #5 follows from this.
>> 
>> You're right. I'm sorry.
>> 
>> Then, can you elaborate #5? I don't understand the issue.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>> 
>>> 
>>> Luc
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Timothy Lebo [lebot@rpi.edu]
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:50 PM
>>> To: Luc Moreau
>>> Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: PROV-ISSUE-444 (prov-o-to-last-call): Review PROV-O for last  call [PROV-O HTML]
>>> 
>>> Luc,
>>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Luc Moreau wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi prov-o team,
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> …
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. qualifiedXXX: shouldn't they be inverseFunctional?
>>>> Otherwise, this would allow for a given Influence instance, to be a qualified Influence
>>>> for multiple subjects. This is not intended.
>>>> 
>>>> The qualified pattern is prov-o specific. It was inverse functional before, but I think
>>>> this characteristic was incorrectly removed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> …
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 5. generatedAtTime: In owl file: editorialNote "It is the intent that the property chain holds: (prov:qualifiedGeneration o prov:atTime) rdfs:subPropertyOf prov:generatedAtTime."@en
>>>> 
>>>> --> It cannot be functional since qualifiedGeneration is not functional.
>>>> 
>>>> Also applies to all the others, invalidatedAtTime, startedAtTime, endedAtTime,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This does not seem to be separate from your #2. Does changing qualifiedGeneration to function resolve your #5?
>>> 
>>> Also, does prov:generatedAtTime's functionality come from prov-constraints or prov-dm?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Luc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/07/2012 21:20, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-444 (prov-o-to-last-call): Review PROV-O for last call [PROV-O HTML]
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/444
>>>>> 
>>>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo
>>>>> On product: PROV-O HTML
>>>>> 
>>>>> PROV-O is ready for internal review for Last Call release.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The document is at:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/ontology/last-call/2012-07-03-internal-review/Overview.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please respond to this thread with general feedback and answers to the following questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Are there any issues that should delay the WG's release of PROV-O as Last Call (i.e., is all of the technical work done).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Are the examples and scenario adequate?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) Should the links to prov-dm, prov-constraints, and prov-n stay in the cross reference?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim prov:actedOnBehalfOf :prov-o-team .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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