- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:32:01 +0100
- To: W3C provenance WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
- CC: James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Yes! I think this is very important to keep in mind: James Cheney wrote: > *However*, these are important research issues for provenance, and there > is little, if any standardization on how to do this, in contrast to the > various provenance models (OPM, PML, Provenir, ...) we have been > discussing which seem perfectly adequate for static, non-aggregate > resources. > > I recall that at the end of the WG, issues such as containers, > versioning, recipe links and so on were raised and included among the > concepts, but that there seemed not to be a strong consensus that they > were essential or that technology for these has converged enough to > justify standardization. I don't think the goal of the WG is to try to > solve (what I view as) research issues. > > So I would be inclined to to agree that we should avoid mission creep > concerning resource state, and maybe go further: while recognizing the > importance of dynamic state, versioning, containers, etc. for > provenance, we should scope the model as narrowly as possible, and ask > for each concept whether it is really something that needs to be > standardized in order to provide minimal , and whether it is > well-understood enough not to be a research problem. For some of these, > we might consider extensibility mechanisms (eg OPM-syle "profiles") to > accommodate experimentation without presuming to standardize something > prematurely. So my view is that we don't try to solve the hard research problems, but focus on areas where consensus already exists. But, I also don't think we should arbitrarily limit what we propose to the well understood cases, if we don't need to, because defining such limits may itself be a hard research problem. #g --
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