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Re: PROV-ISSUE-44 (shortcuts): Introduce widely used provenance concepts as shortcuts in the model [Conceptual Model]

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:28:15 +0200
Message-ID: <4E2D534F.7050105@vu.nl>
To: Paolo Missier <Paolo.Missier@ncl.ac.uk>
CC: "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Paolo,

I think specialized is a fine word to use. I just would argue that their 
are some "extensions" that belong in the conceptual model. I think Reza 
has been making this point well that the model should be "useful" for 
common cases to help adoption.


Paolo Missier wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> I have no objection in principle, however I am wondering whether 
> "constrained" is not really "specialized" in the examples you mention?
> If so, then may I suggest that we wait until the "extensions 
> mechanisms" thread begins and pick this up again?
> -Paolo
>> There are a number of commonly used provenance relations in 
>> particular for the web that are not in the model. For practical use 
>> and uptake, it would be good to have definitions of these in the 
>> provenance model. These concepts should be defined in terms of the 
>> already existing "core" concepts. Below I list several and their 
>> definitions along with some justification for their introduction. 
>> Note, what these allow are simple provenance assertions that are 
>> compatible with the more complex model that we have been devising.
>> * isQuoteOf
>> A quote. Specifically, it represents a characterized entity that is 
>> part of another characterized entity.
>> A constrained version of isRevisionOf
>> seehttp://daringfireball.net/2011/07/attribution_and_credit
>> * isAttributedTo
>> Represents that a characterized identity was the product of an agent 
>> or can be attributed to that agent.
>> A constrained version of isDerivedFrom
>> seehttp://www.buzzmachine.com/2010/06/27/the-importance-of-provenance/
>> * isSummaryOf
>> Represents a characterized entity that is a synopsis or abbreviation 
>> of another entity.
>> constrained version of isDerivedFrom
>> * original-source
>> Represents a characterized entity in which another characterized 
>> entity first appeared.
>> A constrained version of isDerivedFrom
>> seehttp://www.google.com/support/news_pub/bin/answer.py?answer=191283

Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
Assistant Professor
Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group
Artificial Intelligence Section
Department of Computer Science
VU University Amsterdam
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