RE: APA Charter and the Pronunciation TF

Hi Janina, all,

We discussed the purpose and rationale for the TF today on our call, and
came up with the following (taking in mind your input, which was helpful):

The purpose of the TF is to provide author-controlled markup to define
precise pronunciation across environments when content authors need
certainty as opposed to cross-platform heuristic variability.

Here is a piece we wrote that we feel really explains the rationale for this
work:

Think of someone that faces barriers such as print and learning
disabilitiles - they have to deal with the scenario that what's being
announced isn't what's being communicated, and they have to work around
those barriers before starting to engage with the content (or having their
engagement with the content interrupted).

Best regards,


Matthew

Matthew Atkinson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> Sent: 03 March 2025 13:53
> To: Paul Grenier <pgrenier@gmail.com>; public-pronunciation@w3.org
> Subject: Re: APA Charter and the Pronunciation TF
> 
> Hi Paul, All:
> 
> Sorry for my slow response ... I'm resending this email to get Paul's and
my
> thoughts into our archives, and to get the wider group engaged in the
> conversation!
> 
> About the deliverables we need to reference in the new APA Charter, but
> also about the one-sentence description of the purpose of Spoken
> Presentation work:
> 
> I want to work on phrases that could go into the full description
statement.
> We say predictable. I suspect that's in contrast to taking a chance with
> heuristics. So far I don't see our drafts saying that heuristics are a
crap-shoot!
> I think we need a not so in your face way of saying that ...
> 
> I'm mulling something like:
> 
> use of SSML and PLS markup
> to define precise pronunciation across environments when content authors
> need certainty as opposed to cross-platform  heuristic variability
> 
> 
> The above could say "predictability" instead of "certainty," but I wanted
to
> test this on you for general direction.
> 
> thoughts about saying something about why heuristics are insufficient?
> 
> Best,
> Janina
> 
> 
> Paul Grenier writes:
> > 11:29 <PaulG> possible: "This specification will provide for
> > author-controlled pronunciation of HTML content when using text to
> > speech
> > (TTS) including assistive technology (AT). This would allow for
> > precise pronunciation support for the aural user experience beyond
> > what heuristics can provide because it lacks understanding of the author
> intent."
> >
> > 11:33 <PaulG> possible: "This specification will provide for
> > author-controlled pronunciation of HTML content when using text to
> > speech
> > (TTS) technologies, including assistive technology (AT). This would
> > allow for precise pronunciation support for the aural user experience
> > beyond what heuristics can provide because it lacks understanding of the
> author intent."
> >
> > 11:35 <PaulG> possible: "This specification will provide for
> > author-controlled pronunciation of HTML content when using text to
> > speech
> > (TTS) technologies, including assistive technology (AT). This would
> > allow for precise pronunciation support for the aural user experience
> > when the author has a specific intent in mind that would not be
> > supported by heuristics."
> >
> >
> > *--*
> > *Paul Grenier*
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 5:53???AM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Paul:
> > >
> > > I see the announcement of today's meeting. I will try to join, but I
> > > will be at least 10-20 minutes late as I'll be out and about and
> > > scrounging a location to call in from.
> > >
> > > Please, can we consider the deliverable description in the current
> > > APA Charter here:
> > >
> > > https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2025/charter.html#deliverabl
> > > es
> > >
> > > What needs to change -- Or is it OK as is?
> > >
> > > What you see there is text from our current Charter, even though
> > > this is the github for edits to our next Charter.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Janina
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
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> > >
> > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative
> (WAI)
> > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
> http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> > >
> > > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
> > >
> > >
> 
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> 
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> 
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> 
> Linux Foundation Fellow
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>

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