- From: Ali, Irfan <iali@ets.org>
- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:09:50 +0000
- To: "Hakkinen, Mark T" <mhakkinen@ets.org>, Pronunciation Task Force <public-pronunciation@w3.org>
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TAG has confirmed the meeting to discuss the APA Pronunciation Task Force issues on Friday, Oct 16, 15:00-16:00 UTC (11:00am - 12:00 EDT)<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timeanddate.com%2Fworldclock%2Ffixedtime.html%3Fiso%3D20201016T15%26p1%3D1440%26ah%3D1&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893493866%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aoDYvp0ktxx%2F860%2Bv5z6gyZTZXH1b8vDX3vm%2FOPtNXY%3D&reserved=0> We will use the standard APA meeting zoom. Details can be found at https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa-tpac<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F08%2Ftelecon-info_apa-tpac&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893503823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=uYBwqBfXKxhtnAe5k%2Fbij0MVPFECKPVrXzYwcyuUpJM%3D&reserved=0>. Details about our topic is found in this issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/issues/46<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fmeetings%2Fissues%2F46&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893503823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=s7FBPI8vTFum0IHYcdotFuk4n9TTmfsMS%2FJf%2FuxCJCs%3D&reserved=0> We look forward to discussing this with those who can attend. Agenda : * Group: APA Pronunciation Task Force * Topic: Discussion of two proposed implementations for Pronunciation FPWD(details in comments below) * Specification URL: [spec url] * Explainer (containing user needs and example code)¹: https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/explainer * GitHub issues (if you prefer feedback filed there): [url] On Oct 6, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org<mailto:becky@knowbility.org>> wrote: Hi, I’m just following up to confirm that I did create two separate meeting requests to discuss Personalization and Pronunciation issues with the TAG. We would also like to invite the WICG chairs and other interested parties to attend. Is there any progress on scheduling these meetings or additional items that are needed from APA? Personalization request for Thursday, October 15, 14:00-15:00 UTC and proposed agenda: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/issues/45<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fmeetings%2Fissues%2F45&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893513782%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fSyW6wtCpp3Qxgdfk6joZPXXQKuzRePSLp5aMH0RwI4%3D&reserved=0> Pronunciation request for Friday, October 16 at 3:00–4:00 UTC and proposed agenda: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/issues/46<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fmeetings%2Fissues%2F46&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893513782%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=N6EzMvZa7JsfelbLE6vKNQ5i6CWwfnN0aA60hk1Xbi0%3D&reserved=0> thanks, Becky co-chair with Janina Sajka of APA On Sep 23, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org<mailto:becky@knowbility.org>> wrote: Hi, Dan, Thanks for the update. I am happy to create an issue requesting time with the TAG at TPAC. The issues for Personalization and Pronunciation are different and may required varied skill or interest levels. Should I request two separate meetings or stick to just one? To briefly recap the issues (see full details and links with more information in the thread below). The personalization task force needs a reserved attribute prefix to replace data- which we used during development and prototype implementation per Sec. 3.2.6.6 of the HTML specification. We believe this is a simple request, but we want to address any concerns up front. Pronunciation is considering two different approaches. 1) request a new attribute (similar to personalization) to suite accessibility needs 2) an SSML approach that is more widely applicable across the industry We’d like guidance on whether to pursue the second approach which would require negotiation with WHATWG to admit a subset of SSML into the HTML specification. The question right now is should I request two separate meetings with TAG at TPAC or just one? thanks, -becky On Sep 23, 2020, at 3:39 AM, Daniel Appelquist <dan@torgo.com<mailto:dan@torgo.com>> wrote: Hi Becky - [Adding Hadley, Alice and Rossen who are assigned to our review issue on Personalzation Semantics https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/476<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fdesign-reviews%2Fissues%2F476&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893523743%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cHJJTKO0jgrkXGIcozzbYxZw7a8hP12egati96D%2BrBI%3D&reserved=0>.] We might have a potential issue with that time. We're due to discuss this issue in one of our breakouts of our virtual f2f (https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2020/09-europe<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fmeetings%2Ftree%2Fgh-pages%2F2020%2F09-europe&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893523743%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=AJkfiZbZfuYULnW3xW4OvwS%2F3kZ4B69FZH%2B0u2A6P2g%3D&reserved=0>) on Thursday. We're going to try to do some more work on this issue within the TAG and then get back to you with a preferred way forward if that's OK. Expect an email on Friday. In the mean time, can I ask you to please file an issue here: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/issues/new/choose<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3ctag%2Fmeetings%2Fissues%2Fnew%2Fchoose&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893523743%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bm8YYG%2BN8mf9Uq4J936GiAUhVP%2Ftqv7WcwP0jlM0RcM%3D&reserved=0> for requesting some TPAC time with the TAG so we can better track this? Thanks, Dan ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:24, Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org<mailto:becky@knowbility.org>> wrote: Hi, Chris, All, As co-chair I am following up to coordinate a meeting time for all interested in pursuing the below issues. I realize that the HTML WG is not meeting at TPAC but I have not removed anyone from this email thread. To get things started I will propose a joint meeting with APA and interested parties on Friday, October 16 at 3:00–4:00 UTC (11:00–12:00 EDT). Please propose another time that may better suit your and other potential participant needs. Also, please inform us if there are others who we should invite directly. We have posted the current schedule of APA joint meetings on the TPAC Group Meetings Page (https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/GroupMeetings<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwiki%2FTPAC%2F2020%2FGroupMeetings&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893533695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KfExFFWrawNOSttUQxtXjy58ibWWyFRSnOwCBJ8pXSc%3D&reserved=0>). thanks, Becky & Janina On Sep 18, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote: Hi Chris, All: Herewith my promissed explanation about the guidance APA is seeking during TPAC. I believe it's appropriate for us to engage both relevant WICG and TAG, but also anyone else we know might have a direct interest in the two APA specifications described below. We thank you in advance for your help on that, and your willingness to meet. APA hjas two normative specifications emerging from two APA Task Forces each of which needs a different level of specific guidance from the wider community. Also, it is our understanding that normative specs should also be vetted through WICG these days. We should have videos posted providing 3-minute introductions to each of these two specs sometime next week. Critically, each of our specifications also needs something specific from the WHAT-WG, and we want to solicit our W3C colleagues guidance before approaching WHAT with a formal github issue, though we are also cc'ing and inviting Anne van Kesteren who has liaised with APA faithfully concerning a11y issues at WHAT. Describing each specification separately ... ***Personalization TF*** We have one module (from what is expected to be a short series of probably 3 modules) just about ready for CR. The specification describes an ARIA-type semantic overlay that will facilitate web use by people with various cognitive and learning disabilities not previously served directly by assistive technology. One key user group who will benefit from this overlay markup is persons who don't do well with written text but rather rely on a long established communication approach known in accessibility as "Augmentative and alternative communication (AAC)." AAC users tend to be schooled from their earliest years to a particular, proprietary AAC vocabulary. AAC users in a different educational jurisdiction will have been schooled to a different vocabulary. Unfortunately, these vocabularies are mutually unintelligible. Among other things it does, our specification will facilitate automated translation among them--greatly expanding communication for quite a few people who could not communicate with each other before. What we need from WHAT: We need an reserved attribute prefix to replace data- which we used during development and prototype implementation per Sec. 3.2.6.6 of the HTML specification. We believe this is a simple request, but we want to address any concerns up front. The Explainer we've prepared for the TAG is here: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Explainer-for-Personalization-Semantics<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fpersonalization-semantics%2Fwiki%2FExplainer-for-Personalization-Semantics&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893533695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=xnnZCKoC1jVXiZcI8DL8SgAA1ir6hKCuCsgvOvhpd2I%3D&reserved=0> ***Pronunciation TF*** Screen reader users, as well as "read aloud" assistive technology users (such as persons living with dyslexia) have long put up with some pretty horrendous pronunciation from text to speech (TTS) engines. This becomes more than simply annoying, however, in circumstances such as timed academic test taking (such as the LSAT that is used in law school applications). We are now on the verge of writing a specification for First Public Working Draft (FPWD) publication specifying an approach to close this gap for accessibility. However, we need to decide between two candidate approaches. 1.) We have at least one candidate approach that will serve accessibility requirements well. This could be the end of the story. 2.) However, it seems to us there's need of an approach that's more widely applicable across the industry now that we've moved into an era of voice computing with major platforms like Amazon's Alexa, Apple's Siri, Google's Assistant, and Microsoft's cortana. Our forthcoming video will illustrate an SSML based approach we believe could work for us and the wider industry. The question is whether (or not) there is interest in pursuing a more generally applicable specification? This is what we want to discuss with you during TPAC. What we would need from WHAT: The more widely applicable approach would require admitting a subset of SSML markup into the HTML specification with the same kind of status as currently exists for XVG and MathML. The Pronunciation TF's Explainer (latest Editor's Draft) is here: https://w3c.github.io/pronunciation/explainer<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fpronunciation%2Fexplainer&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893543649%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B88iP5OhFIjNuxqdSow5zDCrEKp7JM935pV9gSZgVEA%3D&reserved=0> Hoping these two explanations make sense, and happy to say more in email should that be helpful. Thanking you in advance for your guidance on these two specs: Janina and Becky APA Chairs Janina Sajka writes: Thanks, Chris. We would very much benefit from some guidance bbeyond the just accessibility within W3C. Let me put together a brief explanation of what we want to discuss and forward that later today. With that in hand perhaps you could help us identify who we most need to set up a meeting with? Coming your way shortly ... Janina Chris Wilson writes: Hi Becky! Sorry, this had fallen down in my inbox before. WICG itself doesn't really meet as a group; individual incubations may schedule time to discuss topics. My fellow co-chairs and I could join a meeting if you think that would be helpful. On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:42 AM Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org<mailto:becky@knowbility.org>> wrote: Hi, Tess, Yes, we are working to draft an issue for WHAT WG about our request for an additional attribute for personalization. However, we would still like input from the W3C on our approach for Pronunciation. There are currently two approaches we are considering and would like more discussion with a wider audience, including representatives from browser vendors as well as assistive technologies. Thus, APA would still like to have a joint meeting with at least WICG and possibly HTML. Pronunciation is considering a request for an additional attribute or to embed a subset of SSML into HTML. We believe the benefits of adding pronunciation hints reaches further than just accessibility and thus warrants a wider discussion within the W3C. thanks, Becky & Janina co-chairs APA On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Theresa O'Connor <hober@apple.com<mailto:hober@apple.com>> wrote: Hi Becky, You wrote: If the path forward is to file specific issues with WHATWG we can do that. Please do! That's what all W3C groups wishing to change the HTML Living Standard (or any other WHATWG Living Standard) are encouraged to do. As [the HTML WG charter](https://www.w3.org/2019/06/htmlwg-charter.html<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F06%2Fhtmlwg-charter.html&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893543649%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hRp5nxGmHkc5uKGZ9ajap2gRjYOXvpFZ2%2BxGHtTfYpg%3D&reserved=0>) says: The community (including users, implementers, and developers) and horizontal review groups are encouraged to contribute directly to the WHATWG [HTML](https://github.com/whatwg/html/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fwhatwg%2Fhtml%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893553610%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9XjwV0mW8Gshq7LbolfEjd5CDJhLjMvZBS0TOx7skUk%3D&reserved=0>) and [DOM](https://github.com/whatwg/dom/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fwhatwg%2Fdom%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893553610%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sfd2yOxIOmrOZzBa7QbBqPLFMFRCS6SIDZaF4qnqrSM%3D&reserved=0>) repositories; raising issues, proposing solutions, commenting on proposed solutions, and indicating support or otherwise for proposals. In the event that a person raising an issue feels that the issue has not been fairly resolved by WHATWG, the HTML Working Group may help to explain the resolution and attempts to work with the person and the WHATWG editors to achieve consensus, as detailed in the Group [work mode](https://www.w3.org/2019/06/htmlwg-charter.html#workmode<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2019%2F06%2Fhtmlwg-charter.html%23workmode&data=04%7C01%7Ciali%40ets.org%7C80c5188208ef4a177b7008d8712c3077%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637383781893553610%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HILNjAqiw4X0uPvuZJ44Tu5rRfDZR0xm4cPEqQf1P2I%3D&reserved=0>). In other words, your first stop should be the WHATWG. If directly engaging with WHATWG doesn't go well for you, come to the HTML WG and we can help. We're your escalation path. 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