- From: Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:28:49 +0200
- To: public-privacy@w3.org
- CC: David Rogers <david.rogers@wholesaleappcommunity.com>, Karl Dubost <karl+w3c@la-grange.net>
Hi All, On 7/21/10 3:10 PM, David Rogers wrote: > I tweeted this at the time from comedian Lee Mack, but it is really reflective on 99% of users: > > Most users do not have a clue .In the words of Lee Mack:"Have you tried disabling cookies?""Well, I once bit the legs off a gingerbread man" > > http://twitter.com/drogersuk/status/18347149194 Jokes aside (and I know David did not mean to imply this so I am saying it generally), but just because users don't understand something does not mean they should not be entitled to a protection or control of privacy. To quote James Boyle [1], who discusses similar dispossession of rights in the context of intellectual property, this is similar to "the Supreme Court decisions that dispossessed the American Indians on the theory that they did not comprehend the concept of property and thus did not “own” the land being taken from them" p.54. I know that the above kinda goes without saying it. However, during the workshop certain people did argue that things like geopriv were too confusing for end users, and would up the cost for implementers and vendors, therefore users should not be entitled to such technological protections. I personally believe that for site owners to access "advanced Web APIs" should incur a level of commitment to privacy: both at the technological level and at the legal level. That is to say, if I, as a site operator, use a particular API that accesses a user's private data, then I should respect what the user dictates are the restrictions on that data (spatial, temporal, etc). For an API to not afford the end-user with any means at all to dictate their usage-rights over that data unfairly dis-empowers users - dare I say in the manner the Supreme court did in the quote I gave above. I also support the notion that individual bits of data may not make up the tangible object to which the protections can be applied to (e.g., a geotagged photo, where the geolocation is stamped after the photo is taken, and the people in the photo are tagged from my address book). Lastly, I want to take issue with users not understanding stuff. I class myself as a user :) I don't see myself as some special person above any other person. If I am capable of understanding this stuff, I don't see why anyone else would not be... and if another user is not getting it, you are probably just not explaining it right. [1] http://www.thepublicdomain.org/ -- Marcos Caceres Opera Software
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