Re: Impact of pointer capture on pointerover/pointerout events

This makes sense, thank you.  Do you think it's worth adding a note to this
effect - the reasoning is a little subtle (but the behavior is intuitive so
maybe it's not necessary).

Sounds like we just need to add a 'not' to the description in the test (
https://github.com/InternetExplorer/web-platform-tests/blob/ddffbdc5edd63c972b9ee42df1f161fc17778125/pointerevents/capture.html#L16),
and ideally expand the test to validate this.

Rick


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jacob Rossi <Jacob.Rossi@microsoft.com>wrote:

> Pointer capture makes it so that pointer events cannot hit test to any
> other element but the one with capture. It follows, then, that a move can
> only be detected to have entered or left the hit test bounds of the element
> with capture ("A user agent MUST dispatch this event when a pointing device
> is moved into the hit test boundaries of an element." [1]).
>
> So, pointerover/pointerout only fire for entering/leaving the element with
> capture but do not fire for entering/leaving other elements. This is what
> occurs in the test case where pointerover is dispatched to the element
> (#target0) that has capture.
>
> -Jacob
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:43 PM, <Cathy.Chan@nokia.com> wrote:
>
>  I don't have anything to add (yet) except a link to the original thread:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2013AprJun/0120.html
>
>  - Cathy.
>
>  > From: ext Rick Byers [mailto:rbyers@google.com]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:43 PM
>  > To: Scott González; Jacob Rossi
>  > Cc: public-pointer-events@w3.org
>  > Subject: Re: Impact of pointer capture on pointerover/pointerout events
>
>
> >
>  > Reviving this old thread - I don't think we ever talked about it on a
> call
>  > (I was away for the following call and it looks like we never
> re-scheduled
>  > discussing of it).
>  >
>  > The Microsoft test submission says it expects to receive a pointerover
>  > event in exactly this scenario (
>  >
> https://github.com/InternetExplorer/web-platform-tests/blob/ddffbdc5edd63c972b9ee42df1f161fc17778125/pointerevents/capture.html#L16
> ),
>  > but it's not actually validating that it happens and IE11 appears not
> to do
>  > it.
>  >
>  > I think we need some clarity on what the spec intends here.  Is IE11's
>  > behavior correct?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  >    Rick
>  >
>  >
>  > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Scott González <
> scott.gonzalez@gmail.com>wrote:
>  >
>  >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Rick Byers <rbyers@google.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Should we explicitly specify that?
>  >>>
>  >>
> >> I wouldn't expect any over/out events during capture.
>  >>
>  >> Also should we explicitly specify the meaning of relatedTarget for the
>  >>> pointer events analogous to the mouse events?
>  >>>
>  >>
>  >> This seems like a good idea.
>  >>
>