Re: One by one, but not in bulk

Hi Benedict, all,

We maintain a collection of well-known instant licenses at 
http://rdflicense.appspot.com/ modeled with ODRL2.1.
In that effort, we considered that the reference to database law, 
wherever it existed, was worthy enough to be modeled.

For example, there is a difference between CC-BY 3.0 and CC-BY 4.0, and 
for the latter we include the two rights that are described in the 
European database directive (/extraction/ and /reutilization/). We found 
no ODRL equivalent, so we used our definition at the Linked Data Rights 
vocabulary (http://purl.org/NET/ldr/ns#).

If you compare our porting of these two licenses (which we identify as 
http://purl.org/NET/rdflicense/cc-by3.0 and 
http://purl.org/NET/rdflicense/cc-by4.0) you will see that the latter 
include ldr:extraction and ldr:reutilization as waived rights.

[You can see the RDF we produced at http://rdflicense.appspot.com/, or 
by using content negotiation with the URI of the licenses]

Regards,
Víctor



El 07/09/2016 a las 10:05, benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com 
escribió:
>
> Hi Victor,
>
> How would you express this looser constraint in ODRL 2.1? If it’s not 
> possible surely it’s a candidate requirement?
>
> Ben
>
> *From:*Víctor Rodríguez Doncel [mailto:vrodriguez@fi.upm.es]
> *Sent:* 07 September 2016 08:59
> *To:* public-poe-wg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: One by one, but not in bulk
>
> Hi,
>
> The constraint does not need to be precise. This would be in line with 
> the European Database Directive, which reads...
>
>
> The repeated and systematic extraction and/or re-utilization of 
> insubstantial parts of the contents of the database [...] shall not be 
> permitted.
>
>
> This would be indirectly supported by UC2 on Data on the Web, although 
> it has not been made explicit nor will have direct impact in the list 
> of requirements.
>
> Regards,
> Víctor
>
>
> El 07/09/2016 a las 9:49, benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com 
> <mailto:benedict.whittamsmith@thomsonreuters.com> escribió:
>
>     Hmm, my own feeling is that the UCR should contain UCs that lead to requirements (giving us a clear criteria for inclusion) but we can pick from a wider set (and the mail archives will be a useful source) for the primer.
>
>     Simon, Michael - what is your sense?
>
>     Ben
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>
>         From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
>
>         Sent: 07 September 2016 08:31
>
>         To: Renato Iannella; W3C POE WG
>
>         Subject: Re: One by one, but not in bulk
>
>         This is helpful, thank you.
>
>         Should I still write the use case? IMO, where we have cases like this
>
>         that ODRL can handle already, it's about explanation in the Primer, but
>
>         how are we going to capture these now, if not in the UCR?
>
>         Phil
>
>         On 07/09/2016 08:22, Renato Iannella wrote:
>
>             And if we add:
>
>                odrl:prohibition
>
>                   odrl:action odrl:extract;
>
>             We should then support Phil’s use case.
>
>             Renato Iannella, Monegraph
>
>             Co-Chair, W3C Permissions & Obligations Expression (POE) Working
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>         Group
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>         Phil Archer
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ETS de Ingenieros Informáticos
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid

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