- From: simon via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:04:40 +0000
- To: public-poe-archives@w3.org
simonstey has just created a new issue for https://github.com/w3c/poe: == 3. ODRL Information Model == > The basic context of an ODRL Policy is that only an explicitly permitted **use** may be **executed**. what? how's the context of an ODRL policy defined? how does one *execute* the *use*? the use of what? Given that ODRL defines both `odrl:use` and `odrl:execute`, this might cause confusion. > Any use not explicitly permitted is prohibited by default. An ODRL Policy only permits the action explicitly specified in a Permission and all other actions are implicitly prohibited. Isn't that domain specific? Why do we need to make those statements? > An action defined in a Prohibition SHOULD only refine (or directly relate to) the semantics of an action defined in one of the Permissions in the ODRL Policy. that's not only limiting the applicability/usefulness of ODRL in general, but also not reflected in the examples of the spec. > For example, an ODRL Policy that has the action “present” Permission and may also have the action “print” Prohibition (as these actions are related hierarchically in the ODRL Vocabulary [vocab-odrl]). phrasing; do we need that part at all? -> remove > Note that ODRL Profiles can be developed and used to refine the basic context of an ODRL Policy. Hence, the application of an ODRL Profile must be understood by the consuming community and systems. do we need to mention profiles here? -> remove > As the Information Model diagram shows the key Permission, Prohibition and Duty entities are subtypes of the abstract Rule class. too much prose.. also s/entities/classes, s/subtypes/subclasses > These Rules have the same relationships to the other key entities (Action, Constraint, Asset, and Party). what *Rules*? they all have the **same** relationships to other concepts? why do we need to make this statement? > The core difference is in their semantics: > - Permission says that the Party MAY perform an Action, > - Duty says that the Party MUST perform an Action, and > - Prohibition says that the Party MUST NOT perform an Action. up to this point the reader does not know what a Party and/or Action is. What about assets? What if no party is defined? This list also suggests that a duty is a standalone concept, i.e., doesn't need to have a sorrounding permission to be applied to (which is wrong). I would also not use RFC2119 terms for non-implementation specific things. > The Rule class also makes it possible to easily extend the Information Model in Profiles by adding policy expressions (as subclasses of Rule) that are not possible by default. what's the purpose of this statement? -> remove > The cardinalities shown in the ODRL Information Model allow for **the greatest flexibility** in expressing associations between the key entities. we don't need to sell ODRL to anyone + inappropriate for a W3C recommendation > A Permission MAY allow a particular Action to be executed on a related Asset, again, executed as in `odrl:execute`? what's a related asset? > A Constraint such as “at most 10 times” might be added to specify the Permission more precisely. which means? does it limit the validity of the rule it is defined for or are two rules one w/ and one w/out a constraint actually equivalent, but one is more precise than the other? > e.g., “assigner VirtualMusicShop grants the Permission to Assignee Alice”. to do what? > Additionally, a Permission MAY be linked to Duty entities. so..? do we need that paragraph at all? despite being hard to understand, we do explain all the concepts later on anyway. > Similar to Permissions, a Duty states that a certain Action MUST be executed by the Party with the Role Assignee for the Permission to be valid, e.g. ... wait what? why is this similar to permissions? for what permission? what if there's no party with role assignee defined (like in Example 21)? What's the intended semantics of an invalid permission (or rule in general)? remove example > The Prohibition entity is used in the same way as Permission, with the difference that it MUST NOT refer to Duties and that the Action MUST NOT be exercised, e.g. “Alice is forbidden to use abc.mp3 commercially”. so they are not used in the same way.. also (imho) misleading use of RFC2119 keywords; how does one *refer* to a duty? *the Action* -> what action? *forbidden* == *prohibited*? remove example > The following sections describes each entity of the Information Model in greater detail so why do it sloppily here? My suggestion: 1. Remove all unnecessary/zero-value statements 2. Remove all informal examples fwiw, I very much like [SHACL's intro section](http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl/#shacl-example) Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/95 using your GitHub account
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