- From: <alexandre.monnin@web-and-philosophy.org>
- Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 04:21:16 +0200
- To: Yuk Hui <huiyuk@gmail.com>, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Cc: delfin@delfiramirez.info, public-philoweb@w3.org
Hi All, I'm also very interested in these issues and supposed to deliver a talk on that very same topic next year.Yuk, let's also discuss this off-list :) To begin with the modal aspect, I'd recommend a book by Michael Genesereth : Logical foundations of artificial intelligence (http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=31838) Regarding the models behind OWL, these papers might help : - Three Theses of Representation in the Semantic Web, http://www2003.org/cdrom/papers/refereed/p050/p50-horrocks.html - From SHIQ and RDF to OWL: The Making of a Web Ontology Language, http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.2.7039 Then you can look at - Lbase: Semantics for Languages of the Semantic Web, http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/NOTE-lbase-20030123/ Also, Common Logic is an inspiration behind the semantics of RDF as Henry mentioned, look at Chris Menzel's work here. Hope that helps. Cheers, A. P.S. : As an aside, I'd never put together Frege and Tarski... :) Le Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:19:37 +0200, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> a écrit: > Hi Yuk, > > thanks for that pointer to the short history. I should read that up. I > did not realise and would like to know more > about the relation between DL and Modal logic. If it is true that work > has been done there, then that could > invalidate my claim that DL does not deal with intentional contexts. I > was just going of what I had seen of > OWL, which seems very Object Oriented. > > What is missing from OWL at present ( though I suppose one could claim > correctly that it is > there hidden in the form of literals ) is the relation to a graph. So > something like > > :mary :believes { :Jane loves :Joe } . > > Of course this could be expressed in RDF/OWL with > > :mary :believes "@prefix : <http://ex.example>. :Jane :loves :Joe . > "^^lang:Turtle . > > > > On 25 Sep 2013, at 09:47, Yuk Hui <huiyuk@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi Delfi, >> >> Thank you for the quick reply. >> I understand logic no matter it is Frege's or Tarski's, truth is always >> at center of their inquiries, and of course this comes to the condition >> of truth. >> What i am interested here is the evolution of DL and its use in >> industry, I refer to the following passages from a chapter[1] on DL, >> but i don't think the historical background and its development in >> related to other logic is clear, so it will be great if anyone can >> comment or give some other resources. Thanks. >> >> best,Yuk >> >> [1]Franz Baader, Ian Horrocks, Ulrike Sattler, in Handbook of Knowledge >> Representation 135 Edited by F. van Harmelen, V. Lifschitz and B. >> Porter © 2008 Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved DOI: >> 10.1016/S1574-6526(07)03003-9, Chapter 3 Description Logics. >> >> Phase 1 (1980–1990) was mainly concerned with implementation of >> systems, such as KL-ONE, K-REP, KRYPTON, BACK, and LOOM [41, 119, 38, >> 137, 118]. These systems employed so-called structural subsumption >> algorithms, which first normalize the concept descriptions, and then >> recursively compare the syntactic structure of the normalized >> descriptions [126]. These algorithms are usually relatively efficient >> (poly- nomial), but they have the disadvantage that they are complete >> only for very inexpressive DLs, i.e., for more expressive DLs they >> cannot detect all subsumption/instance relationships. During this >> phase, the first logic-based accounts of the semantics of the >> underlying representation formalisms were given [38, 39], which made >> formal inves- tigations into the complexity of reasoning in DLs >> possible. For example, in [39] it was shown that seemingly small >> additions to the expressive power of the representation formalism can >> cause intractability of the subsumption problem. In [148] it was shown >> that subsumption in the representation language underlying KL-ONE is >> even unde- cidable, and in [127] it was shown that the use of a TBox >> formalism that allows the introduction of abbreviations for complex >> descriptions makes subsumption intractable if the underlying DL has the >> constructors conjunction and value restriction (these con- structors >> were supported by all the DL systems available at that time). As a >> reaction to these negative complexity results, the implementors of the >> CLASSIC system (the first industrial-strength DL system) carefully >> restricted the expressive power of their DL [135, 37]. >> >> Phase 2 (1990–1995) started with the introduction of a new algorithmic >> paradigm into DLs, so-called tableau based algorithms [149, 63, 89]. >> They work on propositionally closed DLs (i.e., DLs with all Boolean >> operators), and are complete also for expressive DLs. To decide the >> consistency of a knowledge base, a tableau based algorithm tries to >> construct a model of it by structurally decomposing the concepts in the >> knowledge base, thus inferring new constraints on the elements of this >> model. The algorithm either stops because all attempts to build a model >> failed with obvious contradictions, or it stops with a “canonical” >> model. Since, in propositionally closed DLs, the subsumption and the >> instance problem can be reduced to consistency, a consistency algorithm >> can solve all the inference problems mentioned above. The first systems >> employing such algorithms (KRIS and CRACK) demonstrated that optimized >> implementations of these algorithms led to an acceptable behavior of >> the system, even though the worst-case complexity of the corresponding >> reasoning problems is no longer in polynomial time [18, 44]. This phase >> also saw a thorough analysis of the complexity of reasoning in various >> DLs [63, 64, 62], and the important observation that DLs are very >> closely related to modal logics [144]. >> >> Phase 3 (1995–2000) is characterized by the development of inference >> procedures for very expressive DLs, either based on the tableau >> approach [100, 92], or on a translation into modal logics [57, 58, 56, >> 59]. Highly optimized systems (FaCT, RACE, and DLP [95, 80, 133]) >> showed that tableau-based algorithms for expressive DLs led to a good >> practical behavior of the system even on (some) large knowledge bases. >> In this phase, the relationship to modal logics [57, 146] and to >> decidable fragments of first- order logic [33, 129, 79, 77, 78] was >> also studied in more detail, and applications in databases (like schema >> reasoning, query optimization, and integration of databases) were >> investigated [45, 47, 51]. >> >> We are now in Phase 4, where the results from the previous phases are >> being used to develop industrial strength DL systems employing very >> expressive DLs, with applications like the Semantic Web or knowledge >> representation and integration in medical- and bio-informatics in mind. >> On the academic side, the interest in less expressive DLs has been >> revived, with the goal of developing tools that can deal with very >> large terminological and/or assertional knowledge bases [6, 23, 53, 1]. >> >> >> >> 2013/9/25 Delfi Ramirez <delfin@delfiramirez.info> >> Dear all: >> >> I post this mail to the common field. My apologies it was send only to >> destinators. >> >> Best Regards >> >> On 2013-09-25 01:00, Delfi Ramirez wrote: >> >>> Hi Yuik: >>> >>> Please might you concrete the fields of DL you need to meet. >>> >>> I mention : First and second order logic belongs to our field of >>> knowledge as a philosphers). For this reason, as kindly Henry has >>> appointed, we might provide some points of knowledge for you before >>> Ontologies come abroad. The main idea in Tarky's model is the concept >>> of Truth: "Tarski's theory of truth is for formalized languages so >>> giving examples in natural language has no validity according to >>> Tarski's theory of truth" >>> >>> Here, one of my professors approach to the question : >>> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consequence-algebraic/ >>> >>> Even he is nearly reatired, I can always mail to him for any questions >>> >>> Waiting for your needs >>> >>> Best Regards >>> >>> On 2013-09-25 00:41, Henry Story wrote: >>> >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 00:09, Yuk Hui <huiyuk@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> hi henry, >>> hope this finds you well. i need a bit of your help with logic, since >>> you are the expert! what is the relation between description logic and >>> Tarski's model logic? SW is based on description logic, how far does >>> it go away from the FOL? i am interested in the question of systems, >>> and the evolution of these systems... millions of thanks. >>> all the best, >>> yuk >>> Hi Yuk, >>> Dean Allemang who wrote "Semantic Web for the Working Ontologist" >>> will be much >>> better placed to guide you with regard to your question above. >>> As I understand from our philosophy of the Web Conferences the >>> Semantic Web is >>> a variation on Common Logic which Christopher Menzel presented in the >>> Philosophy >>> of the Web seminars in Paris in 2012: >>> http://web-and-philosophy.org/seminaire-philosophie-du-web/slides/ >>> And Common Logic is just first order logic where you start with names >>> as >>> the invariants, allowing one to change syntax as one wishes. But that >>> maps >>> down to first order logic I think. So RDF and first order logic seem >>> really close >>> to each other when you look at documents such as RDF Semantics. >>> Now OWL is a subset of this. It defines particular set theoretic >>> relations it >>> seems to me, and establishes the consequences one can draw from them. >>> It seems to be missing thoughts on indirect contexts which we now know >>> to >>> be named graphs. >>> But really the answer is that I don't know - I can just make educated >>> guesses. >>> There are people on the Web Philosophy mailing list who will be able >>> to guide >>> you much better. >>> Henry >>> >>> Social Web Architect >>> http://bblfish.net/ >>> -- >>> Delfi Ramirez >>> http://segonquart.net >>> http://delfiramirez.info >>> >>> skype:segonquart >>> twitter:delfinramirez >> > > Social Web Architect > http://bblfish.net/ > -- Membre du collège d'experts Open Data de la mission Etalab du Premier Ministre Chercheur associé chez Inria (EPI Wimmics, Sophia Antipolis) - Co-initiateur du projet DBpedia Francophone et SemanticPedia Docteur en philosophie à Paris 1 Panthéon -Sorbonne (PHICO, EXeCO) - Thèse sur la philosophie du Web Co-chair du Community Group "Philosophy of the Web" au W3C Organisateur des "Rencontres du Web de données" Twitter : @aamonnz & @PhiloWeb, PhiloWeb, http://web-and-philosophy.org/, PhiloWeb on Dailymotion, PhiloWeb discussion list @INRIA
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